Ep6. NATO: A Model for Ordering the Disorder?
Nation states no longer work effectively in tandem. Gone are the days of hegemonic US power directly ordering the allies. Furthermore, groups like the UN are ineffective, with disruptors often calling the shots. However, NATO stands apart as an example of how countries can work together successfully and how a global institution can remain largely uncontroversial, while doing serious coordinating work to solve real world problems.
In this episode our hosts and guests relate their perspectives about what NATO stands for, its strengths and limitations, and the threats it faces. Former NATO Deputy Sec General, Jamie Shea tells about how the organisation worked in the Balkans and Afghanistan, while Kori Schake mulls over the role of the US as NATO’s hegemonic leader. Timothy Garton Ash comments on distinctions between NATO and the EU especially as pertains to values like liberty. Finally, Charles Kupchan examines why Russia chooses to actively disorder. Charles and Jason disagree agreeable on China’s role as an orderer vs. disorderer.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/nato-and-adversaries
Producer: George McDonagh
Exec Producer: Neil Fearn
Show Notes Links
For more on Kori Schake, visit here
For more on Jamie Shea, visit here
Get Timothy Garton Ash’s book, Homelands here
For more on Charles Kupchan, visit here
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In this episode our hosts and guests relate their perspectives about what NATO stands for, its strengths and limitations, and the threats it faces. Former NATO Deputy Sec General, Jamie Shea tells about how the organisation worked in the Balkans and Afghanistan, while Kori Schake mulls over the role of the US as NATO’s hegemonic leader. Timothy Garton Ash comments on distinctions between NATO and the EU especially as pertains to values like liberty. Finally, Charles Kupchan examines why Russia chooses to actively disorder. Charles and Jason disagree agreeable on China’s role as an orderer vs. disorderer.
Twitter: @DisorderShow
Website: https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/nato-and-adversaries
Producer: George McDonagh
Exec Producer: Neil Fearn
Show Notes Links
For more on Kori Schake, visit here
For more on Jamie Shea, visit here
Get Timothy Garton Ash’s book, Homelands here
For more on Charles Kupchan, visit here
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices