Plenty on the agenda today: Nicky Brownless joined us to discuss; Featuring in the Herald Sun this morning And the pie Nicky and Garry made for Tim Nicky gave the recipe for the gravy she used for the pie And Nicky is hosting a party this weekend – sausage rolls and Aperol’s (and no high-heels) Dinner parties Garry and Tim agree they don’t really like them – and they explain why INTERVIEW – Joe Otto from Kubota Farming tips for Garry and Tim Burning a fire Which wood is best to use Tim gives his thoughts re cooking on the open flame And more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gather Round Tim’s trip home from the Barossa Blown tyre – Tim explains why he let Bucks help change it rather than doing it himself Garry’s simple fix to when he has to kill time after checking out from a hotel The saltiness from people that didn’t go to Gather Round When media gather, it’s an interesting environment! What are the non-negotiable skills you must learn to do by the time you’re 18? Change a tyre, back a trailer, unblock a sink, replace a toilet seat, clean the gutters, fix a flywire screen, clean the fireplace, check the oil on your car Where did you learn to drive? Stories of getting your licence Driving to games Importance of sleep Tim recently heard a theory that perhaps the idea of an 8-hour sleep is overrated? And a recipe from Tim for Cobram Estate Olive Oil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Easter Lunch - Tim perfecting cooking on coals  What are the rules on bringing or buying when attending a lunch? - Garry says always offer to pay 10.50 - Garry’s cancelled lunch in Adelaide, Tim’s itinerary for Friday's lunch 13.20 - Reflecting on Garry's 150th and Tim’s 300th games that fell on the same day 14.48 - memories of playing in Adelaide and state games against South Australia  21.30 - Garry discusses the treatment he undertook for his back, including the magnetic therapy from the magnet man Dick Wicks 27.50 - Garry discovering and watching Get Smart on TV the other day 31.40 - Rules on sharing farm equipment 38.19 - Reflecting on the Jackjumpers NBL championship win  39.20 - How good is Lachie Neale?  40.20 - Injuries and Tim’s idea to see how many games are missed by the "best 23" of a team using percentage  42.09 - Getting dinner for Talking Footy and The Couch 46.15 - Garry working with Matt Hill and Jack Riewoldt and the advice he gives for new commentators Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recognition for Garry Named most popular sports breakfast presenter in Australia Tim’s school reunion Stayed with his old mate, Boy Gooding He walked the old track that he used to walk to primary school Tim went through a few nostalgic stories Tim used to live next door to the local undertaker – and they were all scared of him! Garry and Tim chat about kicking the footy in the backyard growing up T Dollar and G Money make their return this week Replayed 3 songs from years gone by Build up to their return on the Breakfast show Footy Clinics Garry remembers the footy clinics he used to do with Spud Some funny Spud stories Andrew Plympton’s passing Tim had a great story about the unconventional way Plympton approached Tim to coach the Saints Great response to our chat with Sharnelle Vella last week Which guests would you like to hear on the show? How can you measure competitive stamina? Garry says he’d take competitiveness nearly over any other attribute in a player  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1984 Premiership Reunion Presenting the number 32 to Ben McKay Re-capping the Grand Final, the fight in the game Dermott’s role in the day An issue Tim has had to deal with since moving to Peninsula Less privacy in the backyard, which has caused some issues Jim Stynes 12 years ago today since his passing Garry told stories about Jim Stynes Re-capped a story he told at Jim’s funeral INTERVIEW – SHARNELLE VELLA; Ch 7 State Political Reporter Her path to her role now Told some great stories about jobs she had while putting in the hours to chase her dream One job was to carry a journalists handbag while the journalist did interviews! Her parents still watch every night – and they time it! She gave us an exclusive – told us the story about when Mal Brown sprayed her! She was rapt to get the lead story! She was involved with the stake outs at James Hird’s house – they were there so often that they knew the neighbours’ movements There was a day when she got a good 3 minute chat out of Hird … One of the only times he spoke properly… And the cameraman didn’t hit record! They were at Hird’s house so often than a cameraman used to water his front lawn It was respectful between Hird and the reporters – Hird understood it but it was uncomfortable for everyone She has snuck victims out of courts to avoid media before We don’t have an opposition government in this town! They are just not unified – that’s the crux of the problem. There’s one team out on the field playing the game, the opposition is still in the rooms planning Why she loves politics and reporting on it On Dan Andrews – could get up in front of crowds and present without flinching, he’s an incredible political figure, he was ruthless and cut throat The way the state has been left, in some ways, is shameful Other discussion points Worst thing you can do on a footy field Protesters FOOD for Cobram Estate Olive Oil Sweet Potato chips Garry’s food tip – download the YUKA app  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Routine - Garry is a routine guy, with everything he does  - Last week Garry and Tim travelled for the footy – and it made Tim anxious, totally interrupted his routine! - And Garry had a bloke playing a didgeridoo in the Uber to the GABBA!  - Garry stresses when he is not in control  Which job would you like to have? - Garry would love to mow the lawns at the tan Footy chat - Round 1 memories - 1984 Essendon premiership – Tim’s memories  - Tim presenting number 32 jumper to Ben McKay this week – Garry gives him a few tips for what to say  Tim’s school reunion is coming up - He will stay with his old mate, Boy Gooding  - Needs to work out a way to watch the Swans vs. Ess game that night  Incidents between teams outside of game time - On the back of the Mason Cox story this week - Tim gave his perspective of Dermott Brereton running through the huddle in 1988 Sportspeople as actors - Tim has been watching a show with Eric Cantona  - Why didn’t Garry pursue acting on the back of House of Bulger?  - Garry spoke about the multiple times he has performed as Cher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travel this week for opening round - Both Garry and Tim are travelling this week for Opening Round   - Garry has had an early win with economy x  - Tim has a dilemma – he is travelling with a cameraman, which creates some issues  Tim’s brother’s property saved by firefighters  - How mortein fly spray saved the day! Pet issues - An embarrassing situation for Tim’s wife, Susie, at the café yesterday  - The situation was like a movie scene – everyone froze  - It’s created a drama for Tim – “I will never walk past that café again” The footy environment / locker room etiquette - Garry fascinated by Tim entering that world as a 15-year-old  Great advertisements - WE discussed the Kia ad - Garry and Tim’s involvement with Four’n Twenty  - Which players would be most marketable now? Daicos, Bailey Smith, Isaac Heeney, Toby Greene  NRL in Vegas - It’s a no brainer for NRL to do what they did - So many great athletes in the States – Tim says it would be easier to turn a college American Football player to rugby than Australian Rules  - Can we do it? Garry not sure it works for us – but Ireland would be great (lack of venues an issue) Cooking, for Cobram Estate - Garry gave us his favourite salad right now  - Tim has a suggestion – follow Francis Mallman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Back into the routine of footy season Tim’s meeting with Ch 7 today for the season ahead Tim’s advice for Garry’s premiership window for On The Couch The importance of a good wardrobe person at TV Men can wear the same thing everyday on TV and no one will notice Old training and pre-seasons stories Post-career footy litigation What genius thought 100 x 100m sprints was a good idea for training!? Tim did 10 x 200m on the minute The way Garry and Tim were mentally tested at pre-season camps Tim’s story on the genius of Terry Daniher, saving the team from a heap of running due to his farming skills And Garry on a trip to Gold Coast, a training camp which did more damage to his back When did sports science come in? Concussion discussion Discussion on their experiences with concussion as players What does the sports fans want to hear from TV shows, radio etc. Played audio of JJ Reddick Do fans like analysis or entertainment? How we consume and watch sport Played audio of Bill Simmons talking about Vision Pro technology How will we watch sport in future? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week with Garry and Tim: Garry’s New York trip: What were the highlights, has the US become more expensive?, the taxes at hotels Some restaurant tips in New York from Garry: Carbone, Manetta Tavern, St Theos, Balthazar, The Oyster bar at Grand Central Station And he went to ‘Sleep No More’ – A Shakespeare experience Tim has moved to the Mornington Peninsula – near Garry! He is really enjoying living down that way – especially walking along the beach Tim would love to know how to surf Given Garry and Tim are living so close to each other, they need to lay down the rules – how often can they drop into each other’s house? Moving house Garry recently shifted house – the worst job in the world Nicki is a hoarder, Garry isn’t – so that was a dilemma Chat about old scrap books and footy articles Farming and animals How to welcome a dog into the household and create a bond between dog and owner The satisfaction of fixing things Growing John from Epping’s tomato plants Chainsawing techniques Lisa Wilkinson’s wardrobe allowance Unsure how it could be $100k! Women get a lot more feedback in terms of what they wear on TV, which is why women would have more allowance for wardrobe. But $100k seems too much Tim says there’s a rotation system for ties Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hear from Garry and Tim as they discuss what they've bene up to since footy season, their plans for Christmas and more. It's our Rabbit Hole Christmas Special! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1.20 - Garry has PGFG… Post Grand Final Glow! 5.00 – It was a classic Grand Final… - How did Garry and Tim spend their day? - Garry discusses some of the entertaining things he noticed in the outer 11.00 – Tim doesn’t like to have a big TV because he doesn’t want it to dominate a room - Garry likes a big TV 15.00 – Grand Final Eve, September Club post-game – all the events around Grand Final 19.00 – INTERVIEW – Jobe Watson - Recounting the time Tim looked after his dog when Jobe went overseas… It didn’t go well - Tim about to go on a holiday – Jobe gives some great stories about old family holidays 27.00 – Tim speaking about his holiday - He doesn’t like flying - Garry gave him some tips 38.00 – What are you looking forward to over the summer? Garry going to WA for James Brayshaw’s wedding He needs to put together the travel itinerary for Sam Newman 42.00 – Farming, for Kubota 46.00 – Cooking – for Cobram Estate  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1.20– Tim says Garry has made it into his top 5 friends! 3.00 – Tim’s trip to France - concerns about driving and directions 10.00 – Garry and Tim have received a text from Travis Fimmell! 18.00 – Contacts – it’s important to have someone you know within every industry - Not for free stuff, but to get advice from someone in the know, whenever you might need it! 22.00 – Grand Final tickets - The joy and despair it can bring - Garry told a story of the time he helped someone who was stitched up with tickets outside the MCG 29.00 – Discussed Grand Final memories (as players) 38.00 – Grand Final memories (as fans/watchers of the game) 47.00 – Cooking and Food, for Cobram Estate 54.00 – Farming tips for Kubota - Drones and technology  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2.00 – Big week for both Garry and Tim – Prelim week 3.00 – Garry’s flight to Sydney – had a lot of people coming up to talk to him - Flying is a process - Garry can understand why people have their own plane, if they can afford it 5.30 – When Huddo caught the private flight back with the MMM boys… because his wife was in labour 9.30 – Traits of a ruthless competitor - Tom Brady says he can’t stand it when opposition players hug and smile on the field - Garry didn’t like Joel Smith helping Jacob Weitering off the ground last week 18.00 – Are the modern day players too nice to each other? 22.00 – Do you shake hands before a game of footy? 25.00 – Preliminary finals preview 32.00 – Farming, for Kubota - Technology taking over - Forrest bathing 38.00 – Cooking, for Cobram Estate - Shepherds Pie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1.30 – Garry’s birthday today 5.00 – Gifts – do you still do gifts for your birthday? 10.00 – The Finals - Huge first weekend - The lift of the atmosphere in finals 14.00 – Debut of Talking Finals last week - Channel 7’s new footy show – which Tim is involved with 18.00 – All Modesty Aside - Garry recounts his famous 10 goals in a final! - Garry reveals the tactic he and Brett Lovett used which got him his 10th goal! 28.00 – Farming, for Kubota - Brushcutting long grass to get rid of snakes around your house and land 37.00 – Cooking, for Cobram Estate Olive Oil - What does Garry want to eat for his birthday? 43.00 – Non driverless cars - Would you ever travel in one? 45.00 – Garry is fearful that his cat might have amnesia 48.00 – Preview for Tim’s holiday to France and Italy  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2.00 – Garry recounting a great weekend - Watched two of his sons win a premiership - One piece of play almost brought Garry to tears (of joy) 5.00 – What do you eat before a big game? - Tim’s old man was set in his ways with breakfast tradition on the day of a big game 7.00 – Tim caught up with Essendon mates from the 80s over the weekend - Tim hadn’t seen some of them for 30 years – which made it difficult to remember some names - What’s the best way to go about it? Honesty, or try to bluff your way through the conversation - How do you leave a function? The art of doing a phantom … 15.00 – Body parts that no longer work for older people 17.00 – The culture of showering with teammates post game 19.00 – Garry has an issue – why he can’t read a book in the bath anymore… 22.00 – INTERVIEW – DARREN BEWICK; ESSENDON STAR - 1993 Premiership, 30 years on - His relationship with Kevin Sheedy - 6 goals in the prelim – carried the team through to the Granny! - Playing with Tim – looked up to him as a legend. Had an aura about him, but realised he was just a normal bloke - Tim re: Gavin Wanganeen – he was like a rockstar at the club 36.00 – Garry and Tim discuss their first ever finals match 45.00 —Farming; for Kubota - Shifting sheep to higher ground during a storm - Garry has a problem – Kangaroos on his farm and his neighbours have kangaroo proof fencing 50.00 – Food, for Cobram Estate Olive Oil - The magic of sweet potato 53.00 – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes - Alan Joyce and Qantas - Where has accountability gone - Eddie Jones – labelled a ‘horny teenager’ - FOPO – Fear of Other People’s Opinions (on the back of our chat with Dr Michael Gervais) - Mike Sheahan is still a superstar! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

0.30 – Garry goes through some recent complaints he’s had! Forgot a player from the 1983 Kyabram Premiership reunion 2.30 – Tim went yabbying last week - Told some yabbying stories – which turned into the farming tip, for Kubota 12.00 – Garry discussed his interview with Darcy Moore for Fox Sports 16.00 – The guys couldn’t think of anything worse than being hit up by paparazzi! 17.00 – The success of Drive to Survive 22.00 – Tim calls BS on Garry’s story about Delta Goodram! 25.00 – When Garry met Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley from KISS - Garry interviewed them on The Footy Show, but it took a bizarre twist! 28.00 – Damien Oliver’s retirement announcement - The win on Media Puzzle will go down as one of the all-time sport stories 31.00 – When Garry tried his hand at owning a horse – didn’t go well! - Simon O’Donnell, Gerard Healy, David Hookes all involved 34.00 – Father’s Day this weekend 39.00 – Quick Fire Questions and chat about the upcoming finals series Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1.30 – Tim’s technical issues with the autocue before Matildas match last week “It’s the panic and fear that completely comes over you” 6.0    – The most un-Australian act Tim has seen! 6:30 – The Matildas – Tim loved the whole tournament – got swept up in it 14.00 – Garry tells us about his 1983 Under 18 Premiership Reunion for Kyabram on the weekend 23.00 – Welcome Cobram Estate Oil as a partner to the podcast - Tim’s best footy snack – sweet potato, slice into not too thick pieces, sprinkle thyme, salt, pepper and drizzle olive oil 26.00 – Garry’s recent trip to the tip - Wouldn’t mind a job there! 34.00 – Garry story taking tourists through his property to look at the kangaroos 40.00 – Farming, for Kubota - Firelighting - Pruning grapes 44.00 – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes - Finals coming up – Tim flat with Essendon’s performance on the weekend - Retirements - Ange Postecoglou started well at the Spurs  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's edition of 'The Rabbit Hole', Garry and Tim discussed the Matildas' World Cup win against Denmark, Tim's sheep idea, Garry's considerations for his property, Round 21 in the AFL, Matthew Lloyd's school footy celebration, mushrooms, their plans for their holidays, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1.30 – What do you sleep in? 3.30 – The Squirrel Grip - Some players have been known to do it in the past 6.00 – Soft and Hard Launches - Tim and Garry dissect the difference 12.30 – Men for all seasons calendar - Garry recalls the time he was involved - Chat about Bucks, Craig Kelly and others that were involved - Tim never did it… But Garry believes some of Tim’s stuff is worse! 18.30 – The Logies - Dissecting Sam Pang’s performance - How was he NOT nominated for the gold Logie?! 21.30 – The Matildas  - Garry doesn’t feel connected because he doesn’t know the players - But the Matildas are having a great impact – you cant see the TV shots of young girls in the crowd. The emotional connection for the young girls in the crowd is enormous - Huge TV ratings for Matildas matches 29.00 – The Ashes - Disappointed with the post-game drinks not going ahead - Is there a greater level of ill-feeling between the two sides? 32.00 – Post-game beers in the world of footy - Tim tells a great story about Tom Hafey in a post-game function one day… Filthy with the umpires! - It was different for Garry post game – no post-game beers in the rooms, but they’d go out and then have a Sunday sip 37.00 – The time Tim saw Jim Buckley swaying along with Paul Van Der Haar to ‘Never Tear Us Apart’ at Billboard  39.00 – Cold showers at suburban grounds… Moorabbin was the worst! 43.00 – Garry home alone at the moment - Cleaning, cooking 47.00 – Do you get on well with your in-laws? 51.00 – Farming, for KUBOTA - At least once a year, get your main machinery serviced - Clean your gutters 55.00 – Finished with a song - Good feedback from last week with Cat’s In the Cradle - Tim’s selection this week… Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

4.00 – Bed linen - How much should a doona and a sheet cost? - Tim says he is the linen expert 12.00 – Rabbit Hole Rewind – Interview with Mark Harvey - His take on the 1990 Grand Final brawl - Tim didn’t want any part of the fight, meanwhile Harvs was wrestling with Gubby! 18.00 – Chat about Lou Richards - The original footy player turned media megastar - Garry told a story about Lou’s left of centre thinking… Christian vs Lyon (Lion) – ahead of a clash between Garry and Michael Christian - Why did Lou go to Channel 9? - Story about Lou’s reaction to Jack Dyer’s passing – not what you’d expect! 25.00 – Guests on radio - Chat re the conditioning of AFL players by media managers - Reaction to two guests who spoke really well on Breakfast this week – Nick Daicos and Mason Redman - “The game is in great hands” – Tim, on the back of Daicos and Redman 35.00 – Craig McRae and his legacy - “He will be transformational, in how he approaches things as a senior coach”- Garry 39.00 – Farming, for Kubota - Types of manure 45.00 – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes - English media - Laugh lines and botox - Garry isn’t a music person – but we will finish with a song each week  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices