This is a repost of my recent discussion with Seraphim Hamilton on his YouTube channel. He asked me many good questions about universal history, re-enchantment, fairy tales, the occult, divination, carnival, war, prayer, and ritual, thinking symbolically about your own life, AI, and more. Enjoy. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/wXwi8r00-XU Previous discussion: https://youtu.be/C9pNpJxY3kQ?si=RA6BckS-lvi3218r 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. Join us at the Symbolic World Summit in Tarpon Springs, Florida. Date: Feb 29-Mar 2, 2024 Tickets start at $399: https://thesymbolicworld.com/summit This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

Fr. Joseph Lucas published a thesis on the question of sacrifice, called Offerer and Offering: Cyril of Alexandria on Jewish and Christian Sacrifice. In this video, we discuss sacrifice in Scripture, how we should understand the crucifixion, and how the notion of sacrifice applies to the Christian life. Bio: Father Joseph Lucas is an Orthodox Christian priest, theological scholar, and practical philosopher. He received his PhD. in Theology from the St. Irenaeus Orthodox Theological Institute at Radboud Universiteit Nijmegan, and his MDiv. with Distinction in Patristics and Church History from St. Tikhon Orthodox Theological Seminary. Father Joseph is the author of Prayer of the Publican: Justification in the Desert Fathers. He is a Senior Editor of Rule of Faith Journal. Rule of Faith is an Orthodox Christian journal wherein scholars, clergy, and artists elucidate the culture of faith and engage the questions of our time. Rule of Faith journal: https://ruleoffaith.org Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/0FuO88QVlN0 — Timestamps: 0:00 - Coming up 0:42 - Intro music 1:06 - Introduction 2:01 - St. Cyril on sacrifice 2:59 - What is sacrifice for? 5:02 - Biblical sacrifice is not propitiation 8:11 - The scope of Scripture 11:46 - Yom Kippur: Two aspects of the same sacrifice 15:45 - Is the crucifixion an offering? 17:00 - Never disconnected from the Father 19:17 - My God, my God, why have You Forsaken me? 20:51 - The Garden of Gethsemane 22:43 - The prophesy, "for our sake" 25:05 - Symbol + intention 33:56 - Connecting this to Christian life 35:09 - The limits of René Girard 38:33 - The central pattern 46:08 - Applying this to politics — 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

This is a repost of a great discussion I had on the Climbing Mt. Sophia channel alongside DC Schindler. We discuss beauty, art, freedom, techne and technology, primarily exploring the question: what is beauty? Original: Climbing Mt. Sophia - Beauty, Art and Freedom with Jonathan Pageau and DC Schindler: https://youtu.be/pIikYtFS4Q8?si=SlFG5MR0ZtbmcL9I Jonathan’s video on contemporary art: The Search for Participation in Contemporary Art: https://youtu.be/EWc7TKm9jho?si=WuwCjk3Tb3Zdkpmg David and Ken’s series on Freedom from Reality: Part 1; Good, Functionality and Unease with DC Schindler: https://youtu.be/kSoCVbcmXfg?si=qkmNLSc2J7DLcDQA — Join us for the Symbolic World Summit in Tarpon Springs, Florida. Date: Feb 29-Mar 2, 2024 Tickets start at $399: https://thesymbolicworld.com/summit — 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. ---------------------- Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976 A small portion of the audio content in this video belongs to Dirt Poor Robins. We have received explicit permission from Dirt Poor Robins to use their music in this video to advertise an event where they will be present as performing artists. All video posted is merely for educational, commentarial, and informational purposes under Fair Use law. All rights and credit go directly to its owners. No copyright infringement intended. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

For this week’s podcast, I sat down with Fr. Turbo Qualls and David Patrick Harry to discuss beauty and iconography in the Orthodox Christian tradition, why beauty is a part of the Church despite Christ leading a simple life, giving back to God, the meaning and purpose of icons in worship, balancing beauty and charity, the question of idolatry, the duality of externals, and more. Fr. Turbo Qualls is the rector at St. Mary of Egypt, Serbian Orthodox Church in Kanses City Missouti, where he lives with his wife Juliana and their children. He has lectured in various parts of the United States in regard to the work of evangelization and cultural outreach. David Patrick Harry is a religious studies scholar and has a YouTube channel called Church of the Eternal Logos that’s devoted to Orthodox Christian apologetics, his academic work, as well as addressing topics such as comparative mysticism, Gnosticism, world religions, esoteric traditions, the spirituality of technology, and much more. Check out David’s channel: Church of the Eternal Logos: https://www.youtube.com/@ChurchoftheEternalLogos Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/awabHcHOY_k — Timestamps: 0:00 - Coming up 0:50 - Intro music 1:16 - Introduction 1:46 - Aesthetics in the Orthodox Church 3:22 - Symbols and beauty in the Church 8:14 - Why the Church prioritizes beauty 13:12 - Give the best back to God 18:04 - An expansive view 20:47 - The beauty and the ascetic 25:39 - Synthesis vs confusion 33:33 - Reaching mankind through beauty 40:49 - Balancing beauty with charity 48:58 - The duality of externals 57:40 - A commodity 1:05:00 - A relationship 1:18:31 - The plateau 1:22:03 - A new context for beauty — Join us for the Symbolic World Summit on Feb 29th, 2024, in Tarpon Springs, Florida. Learn more here: https://thesymbolicworld.com/summit 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

Dr. Martin Shaw will be a speaker at the Symbolic World Summit next year in Tarpon Springs, Florida. In this conversation we discuss pagan stories, including The Odyssey and The Iliad, our current moment in the West, the return of paganism and a desire for Kleos (imperishable glory) in modern life. We also talk about how much paganism differs from Christianity, wrestling with Scripture as a mythographer, and Martin’s journey to Orthodox Christianity. Dr Martin Shaw is a writer, storyteller, and mythologist. Award-winning author of seventeen books, his most recent, Bardskull, was Guardian Book of the Day and described by the Sunday Times as “rich and transgressive.” He is a wilderness rites of passage guide and spent four years living in a tent. Shaw founded the Oral Tradition and Living Myth courses at Stanford University and is described by the Irish Times as an “interloper from the medieval.” An Eastern Orthodox Christian, over the last twenty-five years Shaw has introduced thousands of people to myth and how it speaks to our age. He is widely published: Orion, The Sun, Mississippi Review, Poetry International and many others. Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/U4BVKOBrnTY Dr. Martin Shaw’s website: https://drmartinshaw.com/ Substack: https://martinshaw.substack.com/ Join me and Dr. Martin Shaw and others at the Symbolic World Summit in Tarpon Springs, Florida. Date: Feb 29-Mar 2, 2024 Tickets start at $399: https://thesymbolicworld.com/summit —-------------------- Timestamps: 0:00 - Coming up next 1:00 - Intro music 1:24 - Introduction 1:44 - The Symbolic World Summit 5:12 - What stood out rereading The Odyssey 10:13 - What paganism looks like 13:58 - The Iliad 14:57 - Christ in The Odyssey 20:28 - Struggling with Scripture 24:29 - Relating to Biblical stories 26:56 - Samson 31:16 - Pandemonium and understanding the West 33:07 - Tell me about the Summit 38:00 - Martin's transformation 42:01 - I'm not a classicist —-------------------- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick is Chief Content Officer of Ancient Faith Ministries. He has been podcasting since 2007 and is the host of Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy, Orthodox Engagement, and Roads from Emmaus, as well as co-host of The Lord of Spirits, The Areopagus, and Amon Sûl. I had a wonderful conversation with Fr. Andrew about his latest project, The Wolf and the Cross. This podcast series documents his Orthodox pilgrimage to Lithuania, the last pagan nation in Europe. We discuss how Eastern Orthodoxy deals with the traditions and symbols from paganism and how it adapts elements of non-orthodox branches of Christianity. Listen to The Wolf and the Cross: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/wolfandcross ----------------------- JOIN US FOR THE SYMBOLIC WORLD SUMMIT: https://thesymbolicworld.com/summit Feb 29th - Mar 2nd, 2024 Tarpon Springs, Florida, US Tickets start at $399 ----------------------- PAST INTERVIEWS WITH FR. ANDREW • Arise O God: A Cosmic Vision of the Gospel | https://youtu.be/6U7c_89FeWM • The Areopagus Podcast: Storytelling by Subverting Subversion | https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/areopagus/storytelling_by_subverting_subversion_with_jonathan_pageau • JRR Tolkien and The Applicability of Stories | https://youtu.be/QcQShPpbEgc • Gods, Angels and Demons | https://youtu.be/NW_WlIurGtA ----------------------- ⏯️ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Preview 00:28 - Intro music 00:52 - Introduction 02:59 - Second visit to Lithuania 03:00 - Lithuania on the border between Catholicism and Orthodoxy 04:05 - The last pagan nation in Europe (late 14th century) 05:42 - The backstory of Christianity and other religions 09:55 - God redeems or untwists pagan symbolism 13:22 - Transformation and creative engagement 19:14 - Germanic Paganism and Christianity 29:46 - Orthodox and non-orthodox Christians 37:47 - The Sun Cross 39:44 - Dievdirbys and Pensive Christ (Rūpintojėlis) 44:05 - The Hill of Crosses (Kryžių Kalnas) 48:45 - St. Peter Mohyla and Latinization 50:24 - All Souls Day in Lithuanian Orthodoxy (Vėlinės) 55:19 - Our Lady of the Gate of Dawn, Theotokos 57:16 - Our Lady of Pažaislis 1:03:04 - The porous nature of religious traditions 1:09:20 - Humility vs. the demonic spirit of polarization 1:11:32 - Conclusion ----------------------- LINKS 💻 Website & Blog: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau/ Our website designers: www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. ---------------------- Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976 A small portion of the audio content in this episode belongs to Dirt Poor Robins. We have received explicit permission from Dirt Poor Robins to use their music in this video to advertise an event where they will be present as performing artists. All content posted is merely for educational, commentarial, and informational purposes under Fair Use law. All rights and credit go directly to its owners. No copyright infringement intended. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

Kendelle Hoyer is passionate about storytelling and art, which has been a life-long pursuit since childhood when she decided she wanted to work in animation. Since then, Kendelle has developed her craft of bringing fantastical stories to life. She has been privileged to work on feature films at major animation studios since 2008, and is currently working in Los Angeles as storyboard artist. In this podcast episode, we discuss her work as an artist to put together movies for the big screen. We also discuss what makes a story precious, and how to approach creative storytelling. ---------------- Timestamps: 0:00 - Preview 0:50 - Intro music 1:14 - Introduction 2:01 - Being a storyboard artist 3:17 - What's the difference between the head-of-story and the director? 4:43 - How symbolic thinking helps 5:12 - Story reels 7:05 - Planning 9:45 - A bad story 12:39 - Working on a project 14:35 - The early Pixar and Disney movies 16:31 - Protecting the creative environment 20:02 - The next wave of storytelling 22:20 - Finding the right character 22:57 - Story problem solving 25:54 - What did you study? 26:36 - Storytellers are important 27:44 - Stop complaining and start creating 29:39 - How has symbolic thinking influenced your work? 33:33 - Putting the story first 37:50 - The flow and dialogos 44:38 - The early Disney films 46:17 - AI 49:48 - AI images ---------------- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

There is a tendency to isolate religious behavior from other human behavior, which can make religious behavior seem arbitrary or ridiculous. In this week's video, I argue that the best way to understand religion, even from a purely materialist perspective, is to understand it as an extension of other types of ritualized behavior, even those we can find among animals. 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

I had a great discussion with Annie Crawford. She’s written two wonderful articles for the Symbolic World Blog and is offering a course on C.S. Lewis’ Ransom Trilogy on the Symbolic World website. Check out our discussion about C.S. Lewis, AI, progress, gender, laughter, science, and the mystical. Sign up for Annie’s course on the C.S. Lewis Ransom Trilogy. If you sign up now you will get the recordings of the first 10 lessons. The remaining 5 lessons on That Hideous Strength will be every Friday at 3pm CST / 4pm EST: https://the-symbolic-world.circle.so/checkout/cs-lewis-trilogy Email us at inquiries@symbolicworldpress.com if you have any questions or reach out to Annie in our website community: https://the-symbolic-world.circle.so/home Annie’s articles on the Symbolic World Blog: - ‘Cosmos’: A Poetic Reflection on the Medieval Model: https://thesymbolicworld.com/content/cosmos-a-poetic-reflection-on-the-medieval-model - Gender and the Cosmos: The Restoration of Worlds in C.S. Lewis’s Ransom Trilogy: https://thesymbolicworld.com/content/gender-and-the-cosmos-the-restoration-of-worlds-in-c-s-lewis-s-ransom-trilogy Timestamps: 0:00 Coming up 0:27 - Intro music 0:51 - Introduction 3:21 - The Symbolic World community 4:22 - C.S. Lewis' Ransom Trilogy 6:14 - The disembodied head 7:20 - Gender and C.S. Lewis 13:31 - C.S. Lewis' approach to the topic 17:41 - The "third gender" 24:04 - The ending of "That Hideous Strength" 31:46 - Waters above and below 33:39 - Lewis and Dante 39:44 - Theology and "science" 46:31 - Barfield and Lewis: an original unity 53:30 - Merlin's Last Laugh 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

I had an amazing discussion with Jacob Howland about the fundamental question of technology. We investigate from both the Biblical and ancient Greek perspectives what technology is and its effects on the human spirit. We discuss the notion of memory and recollection, Plato’s Phaedrus, the Biblical notion of garments of skin, ChatGPT and AI, work and leisure, technology’s effects on human capabilities, paganism and idolatry, intelligence, and “the matrix”, the internet, intuition, and much more. Jacob Howland is the Provost and Director of the Intellectual Foundations Program at UATX, commonly known as the University of Austin. His latest book is Glaucon's Fate: History, Myth, and Character in Plato's Republic (Paul Dry Books, 2018): https://www.amazon.com/Glaucons-Fate-History-Character-Republic/dp/1589881346 Jacob Howland’s website: https://www.jacobhowland.com/ His articles on Unherd: https://unherd.com/author/jacob-howlandunherd-com/ YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/o468OtytbVQ Timestamps: 00:00 - Coming up 01:02 - Intro music 01:28 - Introduction 01:59 - Different narratives about technology 04:09 - Technology from the Greek perspective 05:01 - Plato's Phaedra - and fixing words 08:16 - Egypt 09:29 - Suppressing recollection 11:13 - The garments of skin 15:02 - Work - sorting chaos 18:17 - Human capabilities diminishing 19:53 - ChatGPT cannibalizes itself 22:06 - A pagan god that feeds on humans 23:52 - Human batteries 26:03 - Intuition - direct access to reality 28:49 - What do we mean by intelligence? 30:47 - Understand AI as idolatry 32:19 - The gold of the golden calf 34:53 - The tabernacle 35:33 - A body of power 37:39 - card: Beasts in Revelation 39:16 - Work and leisure 47:45 - Monastic life and leisure 49:18 - Not anti-technology 50:54 - The Henry Adams curve 56:56 - The Beast kills the whore 1:00:17 - Plato's cave 1:01:19 - There is no "solution" 1:03:24 - Prometheus’ cycle of desire 1:05:58 - The flip side of all of this 1:10:15 - Paradise Lost 1:11:09 - The need for transcendence 1:12:26 - Re-engage at the human scale 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

Fr. Stephen De Young is writing an article for our upcoming publication, the Symbolic World Magazine, and he will also join us as a speaker for the Symbolic World Summit in February 2024. He is an amazing writer and speaker and has really helped me reach new heights in my understanding of Scripture. In this discussion we specifically discuss certain sexual and revolutionary symbolism in the Bible, starting with when Ham “uncovered” his father, Noah’s, “nakedness”. Understanding this is a key to understanding Genesis 9, and an important aspect of Biblical storytelling. Bio: Rev. Dr. Stephen De Young is Pastor of Archangel Gabriel Orthodox Church in Lafayette, Louisiana. He is also the host of the Whole Counsel of God podcast from Ancient Faith and author of the Whole Counsel Blog, as well as co-host of the Lord of Spirits podcast. Fr. Stephen holds a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies from Amridge University. Registration for the Symbolic World Summit in Tarpon Springs, Florida, opens TODAY! Date: Feb 29-Mar 2, 2024 Tickets start at $399: https://thesymbolicworld.com/summit --- Fr. Stephen De Young: Lord of Spirits podcast: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/lordofspirits Fr. De Young’s books, podcasts, and blogs: https://www.ancientfaith.com/contributors/stephen_deyoung Previous discussions with Fr. De Young on this channel: - The Son of Man - with Fr. Stephen De Young - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8KkjD-sLQI - Gods, Angels and Demons - with Fr. Andrew Damick and Fr. Stephen De Young - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW_WlIurGtA - Hope for the Future and the Religion of the Apostles | with Fr. Stephen De Young - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsuxgepcNwQ --- Original YouTuber version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/GQgOYkzj0ek --- Timestamps: 0:00 // Preview clip 1:17 // Intro music 1:42 // Introduction 2:17 // Speaking at conference 3:28 // The legacy of Lord of Spirits 5:33 // Rediscovering the Old World 11:57 // A key in Genesis about Noah 16:23 // Uncovering the father's nakedness 20:09 // Why would Ham do this 25:03 // Usurpation in Scripture 30:06 // The positive side 31:10 // The sin at the beginning of a world 34:10 // Not too close or too far 39:10 // In Christ's story 40:57 // Conceding mediation 44:14 // A more mature understanding of unification 47:22 // Our conception of marriage and family 51:03 // St. Paul saying women must cover their heads 56:37 // Noah's sin 59:11 // Lot's sin 1:01:00 // Knowing your opponent --- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

I sat down again with the American novelist and screenwriter, Gregg Hurwitz. Gregg was part of the Daily Wire+ Exodus series discussion panel with Jordan Peterson, so I thought it was a good time for us to talk about what we took away from those discussions, Exodus, Christianity, CS Lewis, the importance of ritual, temperance, and a nuanced approach to social matters. Previous discussions: - New Think - with Gregg Hurwitz: https://youtu.be/nR53MJd8VLI?si=AAIcbBjs4x1pHt9X - Patterns in Politics and Storytelling | with Gregg Hurwitz: https://youtu.be/ykDHAapyaZ4?si=pNF0KV7uIInAMiUs Exodus series with Daily Wire+ and Jordan Peterson: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22J3VaeABQAppIsV0MmKYhGeFGJsy-dS&si=VxB_bJsEU-QvWHPW Gregg’s website: https://gregghurwitz.net/ Original YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/tOhS9Gm_a5I --- Timestamps: 00:00 // Preview 00:41 // Intro music 01:06 // Introduction 01:56 // Gregg's experience with the Exodus series 04:57 // Let the fringe be the fringe 13:06 // Layers of participation 15:04 // The essence of the laws 16:28 // Values and a foundation 20:20 // Humility 22:06 // A structure in which to navigate 25:39 // The necessity of ritual 31:04 // CS Lewis and The Great Divorce 35:28 // Freedom 38:25 // Hell 43:39 // Hypocrisy and accusation 48:09 // The Nine Worthies 54:34 // The messiness of life 1:03:22 // Guilt by association 1:08:54 // Pluralistic ignorance --- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

Apologies for the audio quality. In this lecture, I take you through contemporary art history and its desperate search for a proper means of participation in a desacralized world. This talk is a follow-up to a previous video I did, The End of Desacralization in Art. This time I want to explore with you some specifics on how contemporary art has to confront alienation, power dynamics, and the minimization of yet yearning for ritual, participation, and community. Original YouTube version of this lecture: https://youtu.be/EWc7TKm9jho This lecture follows up on a previous video lecture I posted, The End of Desacralization in Art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WYh20sYBsQ&t=813s --- Timestamps: 0:00 - Preview 0:59 - Intro music 1:24 - Introduction 2:27 - The pendulum swing of deincarnation 3:12 - Brancusi: Find the essence 5:41 - More examples: Kandinsky and Mondrian 8:59 - Opposites attract: Idealism and constructivism 12:38 - Alienation of the art object 17:53 - One extreme calls the other 19:10 - Remember participation 21:12 - Marina Abramovic 28:56 - Resembling rituals 31:55 - Eating as ritual participation 36:37 - Joseph Beuys: Atonement 43:51 - Anselm Kiefer: The weight of history 47:02 - Trapped in the art world 50:55 - Hope --- 💻 Website and blog: http:-www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https:-linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https:-thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https:-thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http:-www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http:-www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http:-www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https:-www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https:-www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

In this episode of the Universal History series, Richard Rohlin presents a talk about 4 things we must take into consideration in order to think like a pre-modern Christian. This is a primer for approaching old texts like Beowulf, the topic of our upcoming online course on the Symbolic World website. Original YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/CyJaaX60QKw THE BEOWULF COURSE Learn more: https://thesymbolicworld.com/news/the-beowulf-course-by-richard-rohlin-and-jonathan-pageau Also, please note that the course will happen on our Symbolic World website Circle community, so please make sure that you’re signed up (Free): https://thesymbolicworld.com/login We are excited to present our very first online course hosted directly on The Symbolic World website! Richard Rohlin and Jonathan Pageau will build on their popular Universal History series by offering an in-depth exploration of the Epic Poem, Beowulf. Promo video: https://youtu.be/hUjxvEw3uCY?si=jozwytuh-tcHQe7i You are invited to participate in this 6-week live online course every Thursday starting on Thursday, September 7th, at 2:00pm Eastern Time. Each session will be 2 hours long. The course will conclude on October 19th. (Note: No class on September 21th.) All materials will be provided, except for a copy of R.M. Liuzza's translation of Beowulf: https://www.amazon.com/Beowulf-Broadview-Literary-Texts-Liuzza/dp/1551111896 ------ Timestamps: 0:00 - Preview 0:44 - Intro music 1:08 - Introduction 4:35 - C.S. Lewis 7:09 - Modern VS Ancient 11:10 - Tourists in the Church 15:11 - 1) Authorship and textual "errors" 20:16 - Why do we have 4 gospel accounts? 22:52 - What is a book? Pre-modern, Modern, and Post-Modern 30:13 - Authorship 33:11 - Transmission 37:40 - 2) The meaning of words and things 55:47 - 3) Heaven above, earth below 1:04:00 - Moved by love 1:5:25 - Space and time 1:7:39 - The metric system 1:10:20 - Chronos and Kairos 1:17:11 - Meaning in hindsight 1:20:55 - 4) The anthropocosmic vision ------ 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

Many of the Church Fathers talk about the notion that angels have what we call "subtle bodies", that angels are not completely incorporeal (God only is completely incorporeal) but their bodies are also not circumscribed in flesh, but in mind. In this formerly patron video, I explain what the Church means with this description of angels and how it's something we can relate to in the general human experience. Original YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/MTuDl7o-1bE The discussion with Rafe Kelley I mention near the end: https://youtu.be/06Osa0EmJVc ---- Timestamps: 0:00 // Introduction 0:43 // Intro music 1:08 // What are subtle bodies? 2:13 // St. John Damacene 6:32 // Perelandra by C.S. Lewis 9:19 // Our subtle bodies and the hierarchy of angels 14:06 // True analogies 15:23 // Jesus prayer 18:13 // Continue: True analogies 20:17 // Examples --- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

I sit down with Ted Lewis to discuss the work of Jacques Ellul and his views, on technology, Christianity, civilization, and transpersonal agency. Ted Lewis is Executive Director of the International Jacques Ellul Society. Full bio: https://restorativechurch.org/about-ted-lewis/ International Jacques Ellul Society: https://ellul.org/ The Ellul Forum: https://ellulforum.weebly.com/ Original YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/JIsypT45UVM List of books mentioned: - The Technological Society, by Jacques Ellul - The Secular City, by Harvey Cox - The Empire of Non-sense, by Jacques Ellul - The Humiliation of the Word, by Jacques Ellul - The Ellul Forum - I See Satan Fall Like Lightning, by René Girard - The Space Trilogy, by CS Lewis - The Technological Bluff, by Jacques Ellul - The Technological System, by Jacques Ellul - The Abolition of Man, by CS Lewis - Presence in the Modern World, by Jacques Ellul — Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Preview 00:01:15 - Intro music 00:01:40 - Introduction 00:02:40 - Jacques Ellul's warning 00:05:40 - Ellul's influences 00:06:56 - Biblical images of the city 00:09:03 - Ellul's suspicion of imagery 00:10:45 - Reconciling the word and image 00:12:41 - Ellul: Principalities and powers 00:19:10 - Symbol and the lie 00:24:55 - The positive Image in Scripture 00:31:34 - Ellul now: The Technological Bluff 00:37:26 - The Tower of Babel 00:41:10 - That Hideous Strength phrase 00:43:12 - The divine council 00:50:50 - Ted's work and advice in the modern world 00:56:17 - Closing words — 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

How conspiracies work. It's time to change how we think about conspiracies and get a more nuanced view. While secretive conspiracies also exist, many of them emerge quite spontaneously and openly according to incentives and common attention. You don't have to imagine top-down control at every level of operation for the conspiracy to still be in effect. Original YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/FLxU33EPJWk Follow my brother Matthieu Pageau on Twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauMatthieu My discussion about conspiracies with Mary Harrington: https://youtu.be/D__CrY3FaWA 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

This is a discussion from the Princeton Scala Foundation conference that took place in April 2023 with the title, “The Transfiguration: Glory and Grace in the World”. I sat down with Margarita Mooney Clayton and iconographer and author Aidan Hart to discuss the Transfiguration of Christ, how God's glory fills the world, and that the ultimate goal of the spiritual life is encountering God face to face. Original YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/J3u9jWeA6BM - A previous discussion I had with Aidan Hart - The Dance between Sacred and Secular: https://youtu.be/hzQkolwWkwE - My talk at the conference - The Role of Art in Identity: https://youtu.be/mfDm4VefkJg - Aidan Hart’s talk - Liturgical Art as Prophecy and Priesthood: https://youtu.be/07KxzJABskY - Playlist of all the talks at the event: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRZHnw30gpFeBFtZE-wsj5or0BdQtIMjh - Scala Foundation website: https://scalafoundation.org/ - Aidan Hart's icons and books: https://aidanharticons.com/ — Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Preview 00:00:45 - Intro music 00:01:10 - Introduction 00:01:58 - The value of images 00:03:08 - Principles of liturgical art 00:04:25 - The Nous 00:05:57 - How do I know this isn't just imagination? 00:07:32 - The Transfiguration and Light 00:10:04 - The culmination of symbolism 00:12:38 - Poetry and Typology 00:13:46 - Clothes of glory / The Feast of Tabernacles 00:16:17 - Anti-Symbolism 00:17:09 - The point of symbols 00:19:31 - Word/logoi 00:21:48 - The basic elements of the Transfiguration icon 00:24:27 - What are Moses and Elijah doing there? 00:26:04 - Peter, James, and John 00:27:29 - The sandal falling off 00:30:03 - The person and the divinity of Christ 00:32:26 - Divine Darkness 00:35:12 - His garment is transfigured 00:44:37 - The tension between extremes 00:51:41 - Scala — 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

This is a talk I gave in April at the Scala Foundation's April 2023 conference on Art, the Sacred, and the Common Good held at the Princeton Theological Seminary in Princeton, New Jersey. Featuring in-depth discussions with artists Jonathan Pageau, Aidan Hart, and Rifle Paper Company Co-Founder Anna Bond. In this talk, I address art and its relation to memory and identity, especially as applicable on the civil level. Public art forms part of and is a reflection o our common identity. I also discuss the unique opportunity in sacred art, which connects us not only to each other but also objective reality, the ultimate source of all identities. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/mfDm4VefkJg — Original post by Scala Foundation: Jonathan Pageau at Scala Conference 2023: "Memory and the Role of Art in Identity" - https://youtu.be/VvQH04Mhc2k — Warmup discussion: The Mother of God - Scala Foundation webinar - https://youtu.be/A68n2M4iFFY Playlist of all the talks at the event: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRZHnw30gpFeBFtZE-wsj5or0BdQtIMjh Scala Foundation website: https://scalafoundation.org/ ------------ Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Preview clip 00:01:17 - Introduction 00:03:38 - Start of talk: The start of his icon carving career 00:05:29 - The current perception of art 00:08:46 - A more universal vision of art 00:14:22 - Ancient art and coming together 00:17:54 - Art binds us to what's most important 00:20:01 - Secular participative art 00:22:53 - The breakdown of public art 00:27:10 - Identity and opposition 00:31:17 - Remembering the origin 00:34:57 - Art gone wrong: Babel and propaganda 00:40:21 - The Christian vision of art 00:50:03 - The final image 00:53:05 - End of talk 00:53:13 - Question: Heavenly Jerusalem 00:58:03 - Q: Are the arts up to the task? 01:07:35 - Q: What does repentance look like civically? 01:10:00 - Q: Connecting te Church and the home ------------ 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement

Paula Boddington returns to the channel for us to discuss new developments in artificial intelligence, ChatGPT, ethics, healthcare, the meaning of intelligence, and how AI is exposing how some of our current ways of doing things don’t work, and maybe they haven’t been working for a while. Paula Boddington is Associate Professor of Philosophy and Healthcare at the University of West London where she works with a research group concerned with the quality of care for hospital patients who are also living with dementia. She has held academic posts at the Australian National University, Bristol University, Cardiff University, and Oxford University, and has degrees in philosophy, psychology, and law from Keele, Oxford, and Cardiff Universities. She has a long-standing interest in ethical and social questions in new technologies, including artificial intelligence. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/jj69RnoE9qI ---------- Previous discussions with Paula Boddington: - How Artificial Intelligence is Reshaping Humanity - With Dr. Paula Boddington: https://youtu.be/jti77KQKYuc - Digital ID and Control | with Dr. Paula Boddington: https://youtu.be/a9VeKqd6szA - Biotech Creation Myths - with Dr. Paula Boddington: https://youtu.be/a9VeKqd6szA ---------- Her recent book on this topic, AI Ethics: A Textbook (Artificial Intelligence: Foundations, Theory, and Algorithms) by Paula Boddington: - Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Ethics-Artificial-Intelligence-Foundations-Algorithms-ebook/dp/B0BSGKRYTW - Springer: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-19-9382-4 —-------------------- Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Preview clip 00:00:46 - Intro music 00:01:11 - Introduction 00:01:52 - Various aspects of AI 00:04:12 - ChatGPT 00:09:36 - Power and intention 00:11:02 - What it means to do something 00:12:52 - Imposing limitations 00:13:44 - Paula's book 00:17:35 - Intelligence is only one part of us 00:19:35 - Public trust in AI 00:26:37 - Embodied living 00:29:32 - Medically assisted dying 00:31:39 - Machine doctors 00:32:21 - "This is going to save time" 00:33:58 - A return to embodied experience 00:43:35 - Keeping the passions under control 00:49:57 - Fetishize —-------------------- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/advertisement