City Gospel Movements
About this podcast
Celebrating and accelerating collaborative gospel work in cities around the world. Find out more citygospelmovements.org
About this podcast
Celebrating and accelerating collaborative gospel work in cities around the world. Find out more citygospelmovements.org
City Gospel Movements
Visionary Women: Ebony Small on Discipleship
Ebony Small is the Vice President of Multiplication at PULSE Movement. PULSE is a ministry committed to awaken culture to the reality of Jesus. Prior to joining the PULSE team, Ebony was the director of Movement Day Expressions at Movement.org. For eight years, she played an integral role in the growth and development of Movement Day Expressions, an initiative that is globally serving over 40,000 city leaders! Not only has Ebony lead the way in other jobs, she is also an excellent communicator, preacher and you might just see her speaking at conferences like the Q Conference, Amplify, and more. Ebony has a distinct passion for women and next generation leaders which we are excited for you to hear more about today! She currently resides in the Bronx, NY and is a Pastor at her local church. Let’s jump in friends to hear Ebony share how she is creating innovative ways to engage with upcoming generations. Tune in to hear: Her conviction for discipleship. How ‘not enough time’ shouldn’t be an acceptable excuse. Her new book, “The Leader in You”, coming out in June 2020. Always a new role A fun fact about Ebony Small is that never has she been hired into a role that already existed. Every job that Ebony has had has been created when she started and continued even as she has moved into other roles. Ebony says, “This has truly been a gift that God has placed in my life.” The most recent role Ebony has stepped into is Vice President of Multiplication at PULSE Movement. Pulse is a ministry based in the United States that is focused on awakening culture to the reality of Jesus. They are passionate about raising up a next generation of disciple makers that are multipliers for the Kingdom and bringing people to know Jesus. At Pulse, they are creating innovative ways to reach the next generation. Ebony shares how exciting it is to have interns, nights of igniting youth in Minneapolis where they are headquartered, a YouTube channel and so much more. In her role, Ebony is overseeing how their current initiatives are scaling and increasing in depth and breadth. This was a huge leap for Ebony as she transitioned from her former role at Movement.org, where she served for 8 years leading gospel expressions in cities around the world. A different kind of leader Ebony is uber passionate about young people and is determined to stop seeing the trend of young people leaving their faith. Ebony says, “I don’t think young people are leaving their faith in Jesus. They are leaving the pretense of what Church has become where we don’t talk about real issues, things that might be too political, or may be taboo.” From her experience working with young people, Ebony knows they want to know how to live out their faith in the context of where they are living their lives. She submits herself as a leader to understand and wrestle through the hard questions with younger generations. Through this side-by-side process she is able to learn alongside with them and not critique them. Ebony says, “I have submitted myself to become that type of leader. I might not understand everything they are questioning, but I want to humble myself to learn with them.” Ebony hopes that she won’t be a leader who provides politically right statements or a lot of fluff. She wants to be a different kind of leader which drives her every day in uncomfortable spaces, but deeply gratifying spaces as well. For example, she created a life group with 14 emerging leaders. This group was able to walk through topics like: what does it mean to be a young person today, mentorship, and hard life challenges. “There were tears and victories, but none of that would have happened if I was too busy,” says Ebony, “God is amazing in that He finds the depth of capacity and grants you the ability to do what He is calling you to do.” This generation needs people to invest in them and walk with them. They have changed Ebony’s outlook and how she views her ministry, and knows God is asking us to make this investment. A Labor of love Ebony has put all of her wisdom into a book! The Leader in You is about allowing God to cultivate the leadership skills we have while we navigate the regular course of life. For Ebony, writing this book allowed her to take a step back to see how she views leadership and see how it has affected her life. “I have been the recipient of amazing leadership, from so many amazing mentors, and directors at work. I have been able to sit in places of leadership where you get to go to conferences and listen to incredible thinkers who help shape your view. ” She could not have written this book alone, it was done in community and with the help of coaches and her own experiences. Ebony explains, “The crux of the book itself is an opportunity to see how all the experiences of your life, whether they are deemed, good, bad, or indifferent are God’s meting pot of forming you and the leader God wants you to be.” She hadn’t thought through all the ways her life had shaped her into leadership until she wrote this book. Ebony wrote this book with young leaders in mind and if you have a young leader in mind, share it with them! Stay in touch! The Leader in You is available for pre-order now and will be arriving in stores June 2020. You can stay in touch with Ebony here and follow her on social media here.
Visionary Women: Hannah Gronowski on Young Generations
Hannah Gronowski is the Founder and CEO of Generation Distinct. Their mission is to equip young leaders to discover the wrong they were born to make right. How cool is that? Hannah is a young leader herself, but is using her voice to be an advocate for the upcoming generations. She is a regular contributing writer for Ed Stetzer’s blog “The Exchange” for Christianity Today and the Global Leadership Summit Blog. We were so thankful to grab a moment with Hannah. She often travels to speak at churches, conferences, college campuses and youth events. Jump into this conversation to learn about: The 4-step strategy Generation Distinct created to coach young people to discover their passion. The significance of multi-generational relationships (hello, mentors!). Why your existence is an invitation from God to do something great. The necessity of diverse perspectives in collaboration. Take a second to recommend this podcast to a young leader in your life! Hannah, the traveler. At age 24, Hannah is speaking across the country at schools, churches, and conferences to share the message God put on her heart. We love to hear the truth of how hard, yet rewarding this has been for her. Hannah says, “It’s not as glamorous as it always seems.” She has noticed every call has a unique sacrifice. However, Hannah doesn’t feel like sacrifices diminish the call, but instead validates it. Of course every person has a different call on their life, but few are really living their call. Maybe the sacrifice seems too big, but Hannah has confidence that if we are stepping into what God is calling us to, it’s worth it. Sometimes her peers who are also young leaders, speaking at events, ask, “Can you believe this is what we get to do with out lives?” It can feel surreal. Generation Distinct(ly) living out their calling Generation Distinct is a nonprofit and everything they do is built on the idea that young leaders want to live a life that matters, but don’t know how. Hannah says, “We want them to discover who Jesus really is.” So often the younger generation is being told that in order to shake up the world and make a difference, you have to do something outside of the Church. Hannah believes that’s just not true. She believes Jesus is inviting followers into the wildest adventure of their lives–something she thinks is compelling to young people. By leading young people on practical 4-step journey to discover their passions, Generation Distinct believes this experience will likely intersect them with the person Jesus and the passions He cares about too. Hannah started this nonprofit when she felt frustrated and confused why her peers were leaving the greatest adventure, Jesus. Just like us, she believes that God is concerned and involved in the justice issues that matter to Millennials and Generation Z. Pursuing Multi-Generational Relationships On our own team, we have the pleasure of pursuing multi-generational friendships, but we know it’s not always easy. This is why we wanted to know more about Hannah’s experience pursuing relationships with the older generations. She’s shares how she took initiative to reach out to established leaders to ask them questions about leadership. She tells of an Executive who was shocked to find out she wasn’t asking for anything other than to learn. “The older generation gets excited about the next generation when we just want to learn.” Hannah didn’t know what was going to come of these meetings, but when the Executive she met with learned she just wanted to learn his posture softened towards her and he has become one of her biggest advocates for her ministry. When we think of multi-generational relationships, Hannah says, “It’s our job to pursue the growth we want to see and it’s our job to show up to see it happen.” That buzz word… collaboration Of course we have to ask about collaboration. Gospel movement leaders… aren’t you curious what the younger generation is thinking about when it comes to collaborating? For Hannah, it doesn’t matter what the younger generation thinks about it, she says, “The next generations need to be committed to collaborating.” Hannah’s heart is for people to link up and realize we need each other because we don’t have the full picture. By not having the full picture, “it forces us and compels us into places where we sit down and we fight for unity.” There are different levels that we have to fight for unity too and one are Hannah is passionate about is with diversity. “We have to invite diverse perspectives because collaboration means ‘I’m not claiming that my perspective is truth.'” Yet we value the diversity of others and the different perspectives that God has allowed them to have to make a greater impact when we become united. Stay in touch Are you feeling as fired up as we are after the conversation with Hannah? We are so excited to see what God is doing in and through her. If you want to stay in touch with Hannah and Generation Distinct, you can find them on Facebook, Instagram, Hannah’s Instagram, and Hannah’s website.
Enroll in City Gospel Movements 101 feat. Rob Kelly
Rob Kelly is the President and founder of For Charlotte in Charlotte, North Carolina. Their mission is to unite the church and transform the city. Rob’s story is not unlike others we have heard. He was a pastor for 13 years and began to have a burden for the lack of unity among the faith community in his city. Rob is also a fantastic teacher! So, everyone will want to get their notebooks and pens out because we just enrolled in City Gospel Movements 101. In this podcast you will: Learn how Rob’s desire for unity led him to a second and third conversion…(he promises he isn’t a heretic!) Discover the three questions Rob asks every pastor in his city to find if they should work together! Hear a paradigm for platforms in gospel movements that will help include any city movement leader. Learn why data is so important for gospel movements and how Rob is using it in Charlotte to further gospel work. Want to follow along with show notes? Find them here.
How the Founder of Sackcloth & Ashes Is Changing the Stigma of Homelessness feat. Bob Dalton
Welcome Bob Dalton, CEO and Founder of SackCloth and Ashes to the podcast. Bob has a saying that “sometimes the right thing isn’t always the logical thing” and we might have to “dabble in the crazy to make an impact.” It just took Bob Dalton two seconds after reading his coffee sleeve, “What are you waiting for?,” to decide he was going to act on this crazy idea to make an impact in homelessness. Bob started Sackcloth and Ashes in 2014 when he felt like God was directing him to follow his crazy and bizarre idea. They sell amazing blankets and then donate a blanket to a homeless shelter in your area! Bob is passionate about supporting grassroots organizations and local efforts. In this episode you will: Hear Bob’s personal story with homelessness and what inspired him to start Sackcloth and Ashes Discover why Bob says, “I’m not a businessman, I am an activist.” Learn how Sackcloth and Ashes is planning to “Blanket the United States” by 2024 Find out how Bob overcomes failure… it’s probably not how you think
Barna Speaks on: Political Correctness, Generations & Sharing Your Faith vs. Evangelism feat. Brooke Hempell
You’ve heard, “Data is King,” but today we are talking with the queen of research, Brooke Hempell. Brooke is the Senior VP of Research at Barna Group and manages the firms research studies. Prior to joining Barna, Brooke led market research engagements for clients in the pharmaceutical, financial services and retail industries for more than 15 years. She lives with her amazing family in Atlanta, Georgia! In this episode you will: Explore trends about Gen Z and Millennials (& how to activate them to be causal!) Discover who “Resilient Disciples” are and why they make Brooke so excited for future generations Learn how research helps us to develop more effective ways to share our faith Find out what Barna knows about your city and how it can help navigate your ministry better! If you want to read along with show notes, they are right here!
How to Share the Gospel with a Generation that Doesn’t Care About Heaven feat. Josh Chen
Welcome Josh Chen to this week’s episode of the City Gospel Movements podcast. Josh has been on staff with Cru, formerly known as Campus Crusade for Christ, for over 15 years. For the first 10 years he served with Epic, which is Cru’s ministry focused on reaching Asian-Americans. Now he leads a team with his wife Wendy in Portland where they are raising their two beautiful children. Their team here is focused on better understanding the deeper questions of the upcoming generations and how to explain the gospel in a way that resonates with them. In this episode you will: Hear how Josh tested God… and how the experience won Josh over (15 years of ministry with Cru)! Learn what Cru City research found out about how the next generations relate to the Gospel in this cultural moment. Discover Cru’s secret sauce to keeping spiritual conversations at the fore front of your ministry & community. Find out how Western culture has shifted to an Eastern culture mindset (it seriously effects our faith)! Want to read along with show notes? You can find them here.
An Entrepreneurial Pastor with Only One Goal. Feat. Chuck Bomar
Friends, welcome Chuck Bomar who lives in Portland, Oregon. He is the Founder of Colossae Church which now has five locations across the Portland metro area. Chuck is passionate about embedding the gospel in the city and he does this through school-church partnerships, speaking, writing, consulting, and more! You might think he is overcommitted, but he promises he is doing only one thing: embedding the gospel in a city. In this episode you will: Discover not only how to partner with your local school, but the school district as well. Find out why multi-congregational church planting is working Hear Chuck’s excitement for the future of the Church in our cities. Uncover who is the most underestimated person in the school district that you need on your side! Learn how pastors can encourage and equip the business people in their church. Want to read show notes along the way? Find them here.