Gardens, weeds and words podcast, S03E10 show notes A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack February; the natural world waking up; the bossiness of raised beds 2:00 Reading from I was right all along, on my Substack, Bramble & Briar 3:41 the resilience of the purple sage 4:45 Interview with Maya Thomas Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh Diploma in Herbology Ballymaloe Cookery School at Ballymaloe House in Cork, Ireland Elisabeth Luard, author, journalist and broadcaster Royal Botanic Gardens, Peradeniya, Kandy, Sri Lanka, where Maya’s great uncle used to work Rewilding the Kitchen, Toast 2021, Maya Thomas Returning to the Urban Wilderness, Toast 2021, Maya Thomas Grow Easy: Organic crops for pots and small plots, Anna Greeland, Mitchell Beazley 2021 57:01 To Stand and Stare turns one year old *** Thank you to Maya Thomas for joining me on this episode of the Gardens, Weeds & Words podcast. You can find Maya on Instagram, and also on the web at The Modern Herbal My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, is published by DK Life, and is available here I’m ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Gardens for Good Causes, with Hattie Ghaui A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack The glory of October 3:25 Reading from Kew Gardens, by Virginia Woolf. Written in 1919, available in hardback from Kew Publications, 2018 Read by Milli Proust 8:19 Interview with Hattie Ghaui 9:00 A summary of Project Giving Back’s work... 10:56 … and how Hattie became involved 11:25 How PGB is funded 12:13 The original goal 12:30 Me, failing to get Hattie to preempt the announcement (made in late September) about the extension of the original remit 14:35 Hattie, repping the business world on Gardens, Weeds & Words! 15:00 Hattie’s own childhood memories of plants and gardens 22:20 Hattie’s present garden and gardening style 24:29 An unexpected plug for To Stand and Stare 25:15 Hacking Big Money for charities at the RHS Chelsea Flower Show. Can philanthropy really help? 31:02 PGB's due diligence process for charities and corporate partners 34:45 What kind of difference can Chelsea make to a charity? Gardens for good causes, the PGB podcast https://www.givingback.org.uk/podcasts 40:27 The variety of different charities supported 41:36 Sustainability at Chelsea, and the legacy of a PGB show garden 45:23 Keep asking the questions, PGB and the RHS 47:20 A few stand out PGB projects 50:09 The long term impact of the gardens 53:41 Book writing – To Stand and Stare, and what comes next from me *** Thank you to Hattie Ghaui for joining me on this episode of the Gardens, Weeds & Words podcast. You can find Hattie on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/hghaui/ and Project Giving Back here https://www.instagram.com/project.giving.back/ and on the web here https://www.givingback.org.uk/ With thanks once again to Milli Proust for this episode’s reading. Milli’s beautiful instagram is here https://www.instagram.com/milliproust/ My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, is published by DK Life, and is available here https://geni.us/Qs2d I’m ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up after Christmas, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. http://www.andrewtimothyobrien.com website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Designing with flowers. With Hazel Gardiner A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Over the hump of the year 1:56 Vita Sackville west struggling with summer Readings from In Your Garden, Vita Sackville West. Oxenwood Press, 1996 Read by Andrew Timothy O'Brien 5:30 Interview with Hazel Gardiner 5:55 Creating in relationship with others – elevating and encouraging. 8:25 Hazel’s career path. Dealing with burnout and serious illness 13:11 Retraining in floristry. Transferable skills. 18:50 Choosing the floristry path, rather than gardening or garden design 21:50 The through-line in a varied career 24:00 Fearless. A parental gift of confidence 27:10 Building a team 29:23 A typical week 30:45 Incorporating artificial flowers 33:15 Hazel’s early gardening memories 40:46 Creating installations that flummox – Hazel’s ideal brief 43:12 A ‘chewy’ style – texture, layer and story 46:15 How people interract with the work 48:00 The place of sustainability, seasonality and a responsive approach 51:28 Natural mechanics 52:22 Hazel’s own garden 56:38 Bramble & Briar, the Substack for the more confessional side of my gardening content. Sign up at https://andrewtimothyobrien.substack.com/ 57:28 An extract from my book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, DK Life, https://geni.us/Qs2d *** Thank you to Hazel Gardiner for joining me on this episode of the Gardens, Weeds & Words podcast. You can find Hazel on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/hazelgardinerdesign/ and on the web here https://www.hazelgardinerdesign.com/studio My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, is published by DK Life, and is available here https://geni.us/Qs2d I’m ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up in September 2023, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. http://www.andrewtimothyobrien.com website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Cracking ice while walking through the fields – is it too soon to say, or is winter beginning to think about handing over to spring? A great time for mulching. Reading from To stand and stare 3:02 Read by Andrew Timothy O'Brien To stand and stare: how to garden while doing next to nothing, by Andrew Timothy O'Brien. DK Life, 2023. https://geni.us/Qs2d 05:47 Interview with Andrew, by Alice Vincent 06:40 role reversal 07:35 Introducing the book – Andrew 09:14 Introducing the book – Alice 10:00 A book that grants permission 11:12 on the plus side of getting it wrong 11:46 jumping to the book's Acknowledgements 14:00 how the book came to be 17:56 Alice on 'looking' 20:48 Alice on gardening as 'a tiny altering' 21:52 being empowered to garden the way you want to, rather than the way you feel you *should* 22:33 Andrew on the pros and cons of lists 26:08 Pottering A breath from elsewhere, by Mirabel Osler. Bloomsbury, 1997. https://amzn.to/3Stlvr9 28: 41 How much the soil holds – memories, stories, our selves 33:15 Bill's place in the book 38:15 The 'how to' sections 43:19 The research – the 'science stuff' 46:30 Andrew's recent standing and staring – and Andrew answer to an Alice question *** Thank you to Alice Vincent for her table-turning stint in coming to interview me on my own podcast! Keep an eye out for Alice's upcoming book, Why Women Grow: stories of soil, sisterhood and survival, published by Canongate on 2 March 2023. https://amzn.to/3k6yu75 You can find Alice on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/noughticulture/ and the Why Women Grow podcast here https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/why-women-grow/id1659885168 My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, is published by DK Life, and is available here https://geni.us/Qs2d I’m ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up in spring 2023, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. http://www.andrewtimothyobrien.com website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Winter bringing new and rare experiences – December snow in Kent, and recording the audio version of my new book. Reading from To stand and stare 2:10 Read by Andrew Timothy O'Brien To stand and stare: how to garden while doing next to nothing, by Andrew Timothy O'Brien. DK Life, 2023. https://geni.us/Qs2d 04:35 An introduction to From Seed to Bloom: a year of growing and designing with seasonal flowers, by Milli Proust. Quadrille, 2022 https://amzn.to/3hGlcNg Reading from From Seed to Bloom 5:15 Read by Milli Proust 09:29 Interview with Milli Proust 10:55 The original plan 12:45 Working with intention – Milli loves a strategy 13:45 The other aspect of Milli's professional life! Molly Wansell, 42 Management & Production https://www.42mp.com/ 15:18 A sustainable business Paris Alma Flowers https://parisalmaflowers.com/ 17:08 Working as part of a team On the business with Paris, on the book with photographer Éva Németh https://www.evanemeth.com/ 18:54 The visual aspects of the book Theatre, storytelling, atmosphere. The human experience of connecting with nature. 23:03 Milli's earliest plants and gardens memories 26:53 A gardening (self)education 29:00 Why grow your own floristry supplies? 30:43 Using foliage, and the stories of plants in weather 34:00 Design principles in floral arrangement 38:00 From Seed to Bloom: 40:51 How becoming a mother might impact Milli's creative practice – new perspectives and opportunites 45:45 A seasonal perspective 48:30 Grower, or gardener? What's the difference? *** Thank you to Milli Proust for giving up her time to talk to me about the beautiful work she brings into the world from her patch of land in West Sussex. You can find Milli on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/milliproust/ Or on her website: https://www.milliproust.com/ My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, will be published by DK Life on Feb 2, 2023, and is available to preorder here https://geni.us/Qs2d I’m ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up in spring 2023n, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. http://www.andrewtimothyobrien.com website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack The joys of October in the garden. Reading from A breath from elsewhere, by Mirabel Osler 4:28 Read by Jemma Cooper A breath from elsewhere, by Mirabel Osler. Bloomsbury, 1997. https://amzn.to/3Stlvr9 06:52 Gardening in the shade 08:10 Interview with Susanna Grant 08:20 First encounters Wild about Weeds, by Jack Wallington https://amzn.to/3FbVU31 09:17 Sharing weeds (and weeds) 10:48 How the name – and the business – 'Linda' came about 12:35 A Jack of All Trades – Susanna's other work 16:11 A Fair Weather Shop 19:26 Susanna's childhood memories of plants and the natural world Flower Fairy books, by Cicely Mary Barker https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09PGM2YBD?binding=hardcover&searchxofy=true&ref_=dbs_s_bs_series_rwt_thcv&qid=1666786266&sr=1-19 Observer Book of Wild Flowers https://amzn.to/3SxxWCo 21:26 Arnold Circus and the Boundary Estate – the community garden Radicle, edited by Sui Searle aka @decolonisethegarden https://radicle.substack.com Volunteering: a problem and an opportunity? by Joanna Pidcock https://radicle.substack.com/p/volunteering-a-problem-and-an-opportunity 29:49 From Gardens Where We Feel Secure, by Susanna Grant and Rowan Spray, published by Rough Trade Books and The Garden Museum https://amzn.to/3Dpdrn4 35:31 Practicalities of window box gardening with perennials *** Thank you to Susanna Grant for giving up her time to talk to me about her creative nature-inspired practice. Susanna's book Shade is published by Bloom, 2022, and is available here https://amzn.to/3F6eGsu The Rough Trade/Garden Museum pamphlet by Susanna, with photography by Rowan Spray is From Gardens Where We Feel Secure, and is available here https://amzn.to/3Dpdrn4 Pamphlets in the same series, such as Horticultural Appropriation by Claire Ratinon and Sam Ayre, are also available here https://roughtradebooks.com/collections/editions You can find Susanna on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/hellotherelinda Or on her website: https://www.hellotherelinda.com/ My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, will be published by DK Life on Feb 2, 2023, and is available to preorder here https://geni.us/Qs2d I'm so grateful to Jemma Cooper for lending us her lovely tones for the reading from Mirabel Osler's A breath from elsewhere. You can find Jem on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/thecountrynurse_ I’m ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up early in the new year, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack The last days of autumn, winter blowing in on the back of Storm Arwen. Coping with post-COP26 despair and overwhelm. Reading, 'Sudden Shower', by John Clare 03:22 Read by Lulu Peddar Interview with Hannah McDonald, Illustrator 6:47 I chat to Hannah about her nature inspired illustration practice from her home and studio in Amsterdam, how life there compares to life in London, and whether the Dutch or the English are better at coping with what the weather has to throw at them. Work/life balance, slow living, and having a garden room on the Dutch equivalent of an allotment are all covered, together with how Hannah decides exactly what to draw, and the character of her own particular lines and dots. We get through all of this without mentioning Hygge once, though we're deeply in cosy, homely territory throughout, while always bearing in mind the importance of our connection to the natural world outside, both for our own mental health, and that of the planet. I hope you enjoy listening! *** Thank you to Hannah McDonald for giving up her time to talk to me about her creative nature-inspired practice. You can find Hannah on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/hannah.mcdonald.illustration/ Or on her website: https://www.hannahmcdonald.co/ And bouquets of gratitude due to Lulu Peddar for providing the reading from John Clare's poetry. I particularly loved the bit about "patted on my hat" – thanks Lulu, please come again! I’m ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up early in the new year, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Dawn breaking in the garden Trees in the landscape Reading from Wildwood, A Journey Through Trees, by Roger Deakin 2:25 https://amzn.to/3r6geIJ Read by Richard Chivers Interview with Jackee Holder 4:54 05:13 'Coach and author and cultural creative' – the scope of Jackee's work, and how it came about 7:57 The path to being a cultural creative – Jackee's career choices, and the common thread 8:43 What is a cultural creative? 10:52 Jackee's South London background 11:26 Avoiding restrictive labels 12:49 'Jack of all trades'. Ouch. 14:25 Drawing influences widely 15:49 A deep connection with nature 17:45 Something bigger. The wonder of it all. 19:24 The parks of London 19:54 The loneliness of the long distance runner 21:05 Making friends with trees Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer "I understood at a very early age that in nature, I felt everything I should feel in church but never did." Alice Walker 22:33 Jackee's tamarind tree in Barbados 24:14 Dressing the trees at Christmas in the Carribean 27:54 Tree books. Tree Wisdom by Jacqueline Memory Paterson https://amzn.to/3csqx5Z 32:07 Jackee's connection to to the elder tree 39:35 The trees in Jackee's city garden 41:30 Listening to nature, mindfulness and being in 'receive mode'. 46:59 Solitude 48:33 Joy in the context of 2021. COVID, BLM. 49:26 Unapologetically celebrating nature. Charlotte Delbo, Auschwitz and After 50:55 Sorrow and joy interwoven An account of Milton Erickson and the African Violet Lady https://danielkarim.com/the-african-violet-a-teaching-tale-of-milton-h-erickson/ 55:24 "Nature was our first mother" Tina Welling "Nature is not a place to visit. It is home." Gary Snyder 55:36 Being rooted. 57:46 Trees and writing. Jackee's writing map "Writing with Fabulous Trees" http://www.jackeeholder.com/tree/writing-with-fabulous-trees-writing-map-for-parks-gardens-and-green-spaces/ 59:22 Journal writing (and being a stationery addict!) 101:30 The practice of writing. Using the 'Morning Pages' technique from Julia Cameron's The Artist's Way https://amzn.to/3pErewE 103:00 Making space for mindful practices 104:32 Jackee's mission to connect people with the urban forest *** Thank you to Jackee Holder for giving up her time to talk to me about her creative plant-inspired practice. You can find Jackee on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/jackeeholderinspires/ – please note Jackee's Instagram handle has changed since the interview in this episode! Or on her website: http://www.jackeeholder.com/ Grateful wotnots to Richard Chivers for stepping forward with his usual patient and willing response to my last-minute plea for a reading! I’m ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. Enrolment will open towards the middle of February for one last time at the introductory price, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A plant-inspired practice. With Katie Robbins A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Pondering the onset of winter, with twinkling lights and fried potatoes. Seasonal markers, and The Almanac from Lia Leendertz. Catching up with Lia Leendertz. What's new in the 2021 edition? 03:44 Reading from The Almanac: A Seasonal Guide to 2021 10:28 https://amzn.to/36LqUFH Read by Milli Proust The independent plant-inspired businesses bringing cheer and lightening our darkness. Interview with Katie Robbins 13:22 14:50 A love of the natural world and of ceramics 16:02 The formative planty encounter -- sunflowers, a flat cap and a fag 18:40 Potter... or ceramic artist? 19:52 If not a potter, would Katie have worked with plants in some other way? Grace Alexander flowers: https://www.gracealexanderflowers.co.uk/ Milli Proust: https://www.milliproust.com/about Bex Partridge (Botanical Tales): https://www.botanicaltales.com/ 21:50 The power of a good parcel, and delighting your customer Beautiful and sustainable packaging https://www.ktrobbinsceramics.com/blog/2020/8/24/beautiful-safe-and-sustainable-packaging 24:49 A journey to the potter's wheel 26:43 The shortest commute -- working from home. Pluses and minuses of the WfH life 29:12 A tour of the garden studio 34:57 Katie's creative process 40:17 Inspiration from peers 41:48 The inevitabilities of creative cross-fertilisation 44:23 Working in porcelain 46:49 Clay from the ground 50:00 Inspirations *** Thank you to Katie Robbins for giving up her time to talk to me about her creative plant-inspired practice. You can find Katie on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/ceramicmagpie/ Or on her website: https://www.ktrobbinsceramics.com/ Thanks also to Lia Leendertz for joining me to talk about The Almanac: A Seasonal Guide to 2021 https://amzn.to/36LqUFH I'm immensely grateful to Milli Proust for lending us her mellifluous tones for the reading. And of course, I'm ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details and add your name to the waiting list to be the first to hear when enrolment opens up again. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Home. With Jennie Spears of the Lemon Tree Trust A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Why do we build gardens? Looking back to the very first episode of the podcast and Tim Massey's garden at RHS Chelsea Flower Show for the Lemon Tree Trust https://www.tommassey.co.uk/the-lemon-tree-trust-garden Reading 05:21 Extract from How to grow your dinner without leaving the house by Claire Ratinon, published by Laurence King in 2020, read by the author. https://amzn.to/2QrpPtD A quick catch up with Claire since the release of her book, my review of which you can find here http://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/gwwblog/how-to-grow-your-dinner Interview with Jennie Spears 09:42 09:42 Bristol community gardens "Gardening is the most therapeutic and defiant act you can do. Plus you get strawberries." Ron Finley https://www.ted.com/talks/ron_finley_a_guerrilla_gardener_in_south_central_la?language=en 10:24 Sara Venn and Incredible Edible Bristol https://ediblebristol.org.uk/ 11:29 Jennie's background in horticulture 13:09 Childhood plant memories Border Alpines, her parents' nursery https://www.borderalpines.co.uk/ Black viola, Viola 'Molly Sanderson' 16:13 The work of the Lemon Tree Trust, and how Jennie became involved 19:10 Bringing plants from home to the camps 25:36 How gardening happens in the camps 30:59 What to do with plant surpluses - a working economy? 35:01 Food and gardening 37:13 Plumbing in the camps 38:49 "At some point, people want to LIVE". The joy of plants 40:27 The impact of COVID on the work of the Lemon Tree Trust in Kurdistan 44:08 Upcoming projects and the best way to support the Lemon Tree Trust 46:49 A call from Jennie to get in touch if you know of any UK based refugee or migrant based gardening projects that would benefit from seeds from the Lemon Tree Trust (see below for contact details *** Thank you to Jennie for joining me on this episode to talk about the Lemon Tree Trust. You can find the charity's website here with more details of their work, their campaigns and the gardeners in the camps in Iraq. https://lemontreetrust.org/about/ And on instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/lemontreetrust/ You can find Jennie's work for Bloom PR here: Bloom PR website: http://www.bloom-pr.co.uk/ Bloom's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloom_pr_insta/ Thanks also to Claire Ratinon for joining me to talk about her book, How to grow your dinner without leaving the house I’m ever grateful to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details and add your name to the waiting list to be the first to hear when enrolment opens up again. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Back after a break for the last episode in the series Dogs and gardening Lockdown and #BlackLivesMatter – did these change how you felt about your garden? Privilege in the gardening world Telling the stories of plants Reading 05:30 Extract from 'Science and Colonial Expansion. The role of the British Royal Botanical Gardens' by Lucile H. Brockway in American Ethnologist, Journal of the American Ethnological Society, Volume 6 Issue 3, 1979, read by Sui Searle. https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/ae.1979.6.3.02a00030 The book of the same name, available here: https://amzn.to/2PbSC4z Gardening should be political – more of this in series three. Gratitude, privilege and responsibility – what that's meant to me in lockdown Interview with the Ann Marie Powell 11:20 11:48 What's behind @myrealgarden? 15:22 Plants, People, Place 18:37 Living in a horticultural household, and how it effects domestic gardening 22:12 How Ann-Marie became a garden designer 23:16 Horticulture within the education system – being given the choice 25:18 Andrew talking absolute rubbish about "gardening with your ears" 27:10 Ann-Marie Powell Gardens – the vital importance of a great team 31:17 The effect of the Hampshire landscape on AMPG's design work 33:47 Is there anything the RHS needs to learn when it comes to reaching new people with shows like Chelsea? 38:56 Ann-Marie's gardens at RHS Wisley in Surrey 42:43 Pro-bono work for Greenfingers charity https://www.greenfingerscharity.org.uk/ 46:03 Quickfire EITHER/OR questions! Fatsia japonica https://www.shootgardening.co.uk/plant/fatsia-japonica Schefflera rhododendrifolia https://www.shootgardening.co.uk/plant/schefflera-rhododendrifolia Crûg Farm Nursery https://www.crug-farm.co.uk/ *** Gratitude, privilege and responsibility vs Plants, People, Place. Pick your mantra! Thank you to Ann-Marie for joining me on this episode. You can find Ann-Marie online here: AMPG website: https://www.ann-mariepowell.com/ Ann Marie's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ann_mariepowell/ The @myrealgarden instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/myrealgarden/ And also to Sui Searle for reading from the Lucile H. Brockway paper. You can find Sui on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/thetemperategardener/ and here https://www.instagram.com/decolonisethegarden/ I’m ever grateful to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details and add your name to the waiting list to be the first to hear when enrolment opens up again. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Gardening without Chelsea. The RHS Virtual Chelsea Flower Show https://www.rhs.org.uk/shows-events/virtual-chelsea Lockdown gardening interest The Independent Plant Nursery Guide http://independentplantnurseriesguide.uk/ Should we look for a silver lining? Reading 03:20 Extract from The Five Minute Garden by Laetitia Maklouf, read by Emma Jo Real Davies. https://amzn.to/36l871Z Interview with the Laetitia Maklouf 05:15 05:44 Standard Laetitia Lore and the Sweet Pea Seeds 07:29 Sharing online 08:44 How Laetitia has changed as a gardener 09:28 Gardening in small spaces – the benefits of limits 10:03 Moving to real earth – option paralysis 10:36 Prescriptive approach vs you do you 11:08 Trust in your gardening instinct 12:13 Being ruthless. Or… not…! (Hotbin Darling) https://www.hotbincomposting.com/ 13:10 Lockdown sourdough progress 14:24 Teaching the children through gardening 20:34 Being politely steely 22:00 Gardening overwhelm 26:10 The Five Minute Gardener 31:37 Gardening as a transactional relationship 33:25 On the decision not to have photographs in the new book 36:44 What is Laetitia going to do when she grows up? *** Lockdown gardening communicators on Instagram Just some of the folk who have really taken the opportunity to bring people into their own gardens (particularly encouraging and inspiring when some of them are multi award-winning designers) over the past couple of months. Don’t miss Ann-Marie Powell’s lunchtime talks at https://www.instagram.com/myrealgarden/, or Jo Thompson’s daily morning dog rambles through the Sussex countryside in the company of birds and her lovely labrador Rush https://www.instagram.com/jothompsongarden/. And of course, past friends of the podcast Alice Vincent https://www.instagram.com/noughticulture/ and Caro Langton at RoCo https://www.instagram.com/studio.roco/, teaching us about small space gardening and houseplants in their stories. All incredibly generous, and remarkably accessible. Thank you to Laetitia for joining me on this episode. Laetitia's book The Five Minute Garden, published by National Trust Books, 2020, is available here https://amzn.to/36l871Z Laetitia's website: https://laetitiamaklouf.com/ Laetitia on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/laetitiamaklouf And to Emma Jo Real Davies for reading from Laetitia’s book. Emma Jo’s brilliant podcast, The Female Struggle is Real is here https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-female-struggle-is-real/id1215423183 or you can find her on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/emjorealdavies/, or on the airwaves here https://www.kmfm.co.uk/on-air/the-hit-list-with-emma-jo/ I’m ever grateful to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. PLEASE VOTE FOR THE GARDENS, WEEDS & WORDS PODCAST IN THE BRITISH PODCAST AWARDS LISTENER CHOICE CATEGORY https://www.britishpodcastawards.com/vote Lockdown discounts: A year of garden coaching I’ve been very excited about my new venture – even before the lockdown I’d decided that online garden coaching would be a fantastic way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. With the all the uncertainty around our lives just now I’m holding the the introductory price for the full 12 month programme as well as offering a quarterly payment plan, and there’s 50% off an hour’s Skype consultation call. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Birdsong, and gardening in the new normal. Gardening in one place over time. Reading 04:00 Extract from The Garden Log Podcast, episode 74, read by the host, Ben Dark. https://thegardenlog.libsyn.com/ Interview with the Katie Rushworth 05:51 06:21 Not the only Yorkshire-born gardener on the telly… 07:00 Katie’s experience of nature and plants growing up 09:29 Chomping for wood! 10:12 The place of the Yorkshire landscape in Katie’s garden design work 11:44 Gardening is about a feeling 12:43 Before gardening… 16:32 Juggling gardening, TV schedules and being a mum 17:43 Transferrable skills – an appreciation of colour, shape, form and texture 19:11 Garden coaching and mentoring 26:35 Domestic gardens 27:21 Practical, useful & pretty 30:42 The biggest obstacles people face in their gardens 32:54 Plants – just pretty window dressing, or more than fluff? 36:25 Productively using our time in the garden *** Thank you to Katie for joining me on this episode. Katie’s book Plants, Beds & Borders is available here https://amzn.to/3ayCySE Katie's website: http://katierushworth.com/ Katie on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thequeenofspades00/ I’m ever grateful to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. Lockdown discounts: A year of garden coaching I’ve been very excited about my new venture – even before the lockdown I’d decided that online garden coaching would be a fantastic way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. With the all the uncertainty around our lives just now I’m holding the the introductory price for the full 12 month programme as well as offering a quarterly payment plan, and there’s 50% off an hour’s Skype consultation call. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Poem 00:53 Digging by Seamus Heaney Read by Jemma Mullholland from Death of a Naturalist, Seamus Heaney, Faber & Faber 1966 (new edition 2006) https://amzn.to/3bwuPpk A feeling of connection to the land. Taken for granted. Interview with the Claire Ratinon 03:39 4:50 TV Production in New York: Claire’s Eureka Moment Brooklyn Grange Farm https://www.brooklyngrangefarm.com/ 8:14 Career change gardeners 11:15 Early plant memories. Or not! 16:47 Formative food memories. 18:42 Living and growing in Hackney 20:33 Claire’s organic growing training OrganicLea https://www.organiclea.org.uk/ Growing Communities https://www.growingcommunities.org/ 25:14 The importance of urban growing 27:58 A taste of what’s possible. The role of a growing educator. 30:32 Organic. Urban. Mindful. 37:39 The representatino of People of Colour within gardening and growing. Tokenism, racial passing. Having to aggressively assimilate. 44:58 Burden, responsibility or privilege? 51:09 The party played by Claire’s relationship to the land in her identity. 58:09 After Hackney 60:56 What’s next for Claire? *** Thank you to Claire for joining me on this episode. You can preorder Claire’s book How to grow your dinner without leaving the house, to be published by Laurence King in September 2020, here https://amzn.to/2xx6O2p Claire’s website: https://www.claireratinon.com/ Claire on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/claireratinon/ Thanks too to Jemma Mulholland for reading for us. You can find Jemma on social media here https://www.instagram.com/popcorn_for_lunch/ I’m ever grateful to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I’m very excited about my new venture – it’s a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. A few limited places left on introductory prices! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Almost March. Children in the garden… …a gardener’s perspective The gardener in the garden… …a child's perspective Poem 03:04 The Gardener by Robert Louis Stevenson Read by Peta Cootes Early experiences of plants and gardens – a minor obsession How do you get kid’s gardening? Interview with the Skinny Jean Gardener, Lee Connelly 09:21 10:14 What’s this about Skinny Jeans? 12:07 The Skinny Jean Gardener podcast and Monty Don 14:40 Being the Blue Peter gardener 16:58 Lee’s early plant and garden memories 21:11 Time for gardening as a family 22:53 The importance of getting children interested in gardening 25:00 The role of schools and parents 27:40 Schools allotment project with Marks & Spencer 30:55 Ornamentals or veg? What has the most educational value for children? 34:53 The new book, How to Get Kids Gardening *** Thank you to Lee for joining me on this episode. Lee's book is How to Get Kids Gardening https://amzn.to/2wQYUkc The Skinny Jean Gardener Podcast is here http://skinnyjeangardener.co.uk/podcast Lee on Instagram instagram.com/skinnyjeangardener. Thanks too to Peta Coote for reading for us. You can find Peta and her work here instagram.com/nourishingsoulfully With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I’m very excited about my new venture – it’s a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. A few limited places left on introductory prices! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Rootbound. With Alice Vincent A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack More winter behind than before us The cold and damp – joys of a good fire at the end of the day. Micro book review 02:02 Roger Deakin’s Notes from Walnut Tree Farm https://amzn.to/2uRIWVU Published by Hamish Hamilton, 2008 Extracts read by Rose White Winter - a challenge for the indoor gardener Being rootbound – a problem for houseplants… …and also for plants in nurseries …though a very few plants respond well to having their roots restricted. At least in terms of flowering. A rootbound person? Some restrictions might be beneficial, but no-one likes to feel bound... Interview with Alice Vincent 09:26 10:40 Alice describes her new book 11:47 Three ways in which gardening gets us 17:25 Writing a nature memoir 24:14 The experiences of women as represented in the book 26:35 Gendered questions that keeps coming up around nature 30:33 What’s the draw of Japan? 36:53 Gardening now on the Treehouse Balcony 42:25 What’s next for Alice *** Thank you to Alice for joining me on this episode. Alice’s first book is How to Grow Stuff https://amzn.to/2PM28OP. You can read my review of Rootbound. Rewilding a Life on the blog here https://gardensweedsandwords.com/gwwblog/rootbound-alice-vincent Find out more about the Noughticulture talks at the Garden Museum https://gardenmuseum.org.uk/event_location/the-garden-museum/ Alice Vincent in the Telegraph https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/alice-vincent/ Alice on Instagram instagram.com/noughticulture Thanks too to Rose White for reading for us once again, this time from Roger Deakin’s Notes from Walnut Tree Farm. You can find Rose here instagram.com/liveawelllife With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I’m very excited about my new venture – it’s a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. A few limited places left on introductory prices! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Healing nature. With Alys Fowler A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack January, getting back out into the garden. Rains and flooding. A sign that not all’s ok with our relationship with nature Micro book review 03:30 from The Garden Jungle or Gardening to Save the Planet by Dave Goulson. Published by Jonathan Cape July 2019 https://amzn.to/2ZRfueo Extract read by Rachel Coldbreath Insect declines and why they matter, Dave Goulson, FRES, 2019. Dorset Wildlife Trust https://www.flipsnack.com/devonwildlifetrust/insect-declines/full-view.html Interview with Alys Fowler 06:04 07:05 Urban vs. country – where were Alys’s skills for observing the natural world honed? 09:03 Nature under your feet. Being detail orientated. 09:55 Plant blind Plant blindness Wandersee, J. H., & Schussler, E. E. (1999). Preventing plant blindness. The American Biology Teacher, 61, 82–86. https://abt.ucpress.edu/content/61/2/82 Wikipedia Article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_blindness Article on Plant Blindness by Sandy Knapp of the Natural History Museum (London) https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ppp3.36 12:20 The way we garden and how it interacts with the wider landscape 14:43 How well is the rewilding message being communicated? 15:20 A generational shift to a more sympathetic relationship with nature 16:35 Countering late stage capitalism 17:25 How long change takes 18:36 Caring in spite of it all 19:43 Mindfulness vs. paying attention 22:42 Vested interests and inertia 24:52 How our gardens help us to make sense of it all 26:29 Finding meaning and hope in a relationship with plants 27:25 What’s the definition of a gardner? 28:32 Thrifty gardening – recycling 31:37 Style vs. meaning in the garden 34:20 A multi-faceted job description 36:55 The relationship of the garden to the house – pushing the boundaries 39:10 Approaches to making gardens 42:20 Japanese gardens – listening to nature 44:45 Control, dominion – human relationships to nature and the garden. Patriarchy, religion, feminism. 48:46 A Modern Herbal – Alys’s take on herbs and herbals. 52:49 Gender roles in the transmission of herb lore 55:29 Herbal medicine and conventional medicine. Gayla Trail http://yougrowgirl.com/ https://www.instagram.com/yougrowgirl/ 56:40 Can we garden our way out of this, Alys?! *** New Year, New You. A new relationship with nature. Paying it back. Thank you to Alys for joining me on this episode. You can find Alys on Instagram here instagram.com/alysf and on the Guardian pages here https://www.theguardian.com/profile/alys-fowler. In the interview we talked about Alys’s latest book, A Modern Herbal, published by Michael Joseph in 2019. You can find that here https://amzn.to/39DaVc4. Of course, as she says in the interview, the best way to get hold of her is by phone! Thanks too to Rachel Coldbreath for a cracking reading from Dave Goulson’s book . With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I’m very excited about my new venture – it’s a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. A few limited places left on introductory prices! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Nature in a virtual space. With Sara Tasker A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Gardening in the rain Most used garden tools An argument for including a smart phone Social media and gardening community Micro book review 05:09 from Rootbound. Rewilding a Life by Alice Vincent Published by Canongate Books January 2020. Preorder here https://amzn.to/2splqOU Extract read by Rose White The role of Instagram in disseminating an awareness of plants, flowers and the natural world. Interview with Sara Tasker 09:42 10:58 Sara’s social media beginnings 12:46 The role of nature in Sara’s photography, and the move from Manchester to Yorkshire 16:58 Autumn in the city and the countryside 18:00 Gardens or wider landscape? 19:38 Nature getting her way 20:21 The mood of the pictures – escapism, or freedom? 24:07 The common theme in a multi-hyphenated career 25:39 Communicating ideas with Instagram 26:18 Insta cliches, meaning and language 28:27 The effect of social media on mental health 31:39 A female space? 36:03 The algorithm. Female-male dynamic – tensions between creativity and control. 39:43 Natural creativity winning out. 41:03 Sara’s favourite plant… 44:41 Online courses to help express ideas through using flowers and natural elements in photography 46:45 15 Minute Magic Thank you to Sara for joining me on the podcast. You can find out all about Sara’s work and her courses on her website here www.meandorla.co.uk, dive into her Instagram grid here https://www.instagram.com/me_and_orla/, or chat to her on Twitter at www.twitter.com/meandorla. Her podcast Hashtag Authentic is here https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/hashtag-authentic-for-small-businesses-bloggers-online/id1200930280, and of her book of the same name, subtitled Finding creativity and building a community on Instagram and beyond, https://amzn.to/34yy0K1, is definitely worth reading. 49:20 A mutually beneficial relationship between nature and technology? Thanks too to Rose White for her wonderful reading from Rootbound. Rewinding a Life by Alice Vincent https://amzn.to/2splqOU. You can find Rose on Instagram at www.instagram.com/liveawelllife, and with her professional nutritionist hat on here. www.liveawelllife.co.uk. With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I’m very excited about my new venture – it’s a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. If you’d like to find out more, please leave me your email address on the following link. I’ll be sure to let you know as soon as soon as this launches! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching-prelaunch website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Garden outlaws and weedy rebels. With Jack Wallington A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Distracted by leaves What happens when the landscape meets a garden fence? The benefits of cultivated plants Where weeds come in Reading 04:48 from Weeds. The Story of Outlaw Plants by Richard Mabey https://amzn.to/33Ni3Pv Read by Milli Proust. What do we mean by the word “weed”? Native wildflowers and non-native invasive intruders Stinking Bob and Squinterpip. Interview with Jack Wallington 10:50 11:15 What Jack was doing before he became a garden designer. The Royal Horticultural Society qualifications Levels 2 and 3 https://www.rhs.org.uk/education-learning/qualifications-and-training/rhs-qualifications Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh https://www.rhs.org.uk/education-learning/qualifications-and-training/rhs-qualifications 15:41 Jack’s earliest experience of plants and gardens within the landscape 20:16 Is there a plant nearer to Jack’s heart that the dahlia he’s so often associated with? 21:46 Sustainability in Jack’s work 24:44 The tension between how nature behaves, and how we want her to behave in the garden 27:50 Jack’s new book, Wild about weeds. Garden design with rebel plants. 33:01 Responses to the idea of purposefully incorporating weeds into the garden. Thanks so much to Jack for coming along to talk about his new book, Wild about weeds. Garden design with rebel plants, published by Laurence King. https://amzn.to/2CHHiH4. The best place to find out more about Jack, his garden design practice and his personal gardening journey, is on his website at www.jackwallington.com. I’m also enormously indebted to Milli Proust for lending her wonderful voice skills to the podcast with the reading from Richard Mabey’s book. You really should check out Milli’s instagram page https://www.instagram.com/milliproust/ to see the amazing things she does with flowers – I don’t think there can be a grower who works harder. For a fully rounded picture of everything that she gets up to, check out Milli’s website at https://milliproust.com/. With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I’m very excited about my new venture – it’s a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. If you’d like to find out more, please leave me your email address on the following link. I’ll be sure to let you know as soon as soon as this launches! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching-prelaunch website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Soggy October. Knowing a place, season to season. The idea of UNKNOWN GROUND (Terra Incognita) Reading 04:48 from Landmarks by Robert MacFarlane https://amzn.to/2WgmH5N Read by Rachel Coldbreath. Interview with Grant Simon Rogers 06:46 07:14 "Keep sharing the beauty” 10:46 An introduction to Grant’s work 13:16 The importance of walking through the landscape – immersion or escape? 15:14 The process of taking (or making) a photograph 17:00 A cinematic quality 17:44 The representation of the human element 18:19 The reaction of the public during photography 19:14 London: Brockwell Park – Daphne and the Bad Wildlife 20:00 Learning trees 20:39 Favourite plants to photograph – individuals, or types? 22:14 Berlin: Tempelhof – grasses and birds of prey in the city 23:26 Documenting the wildlife, or passing through? 24:24 ‘Terra Incognita’ – always new ground? How well do we know the ground under our feet? The Ambassadors by Hans Holbein the younger. https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/the-ambassadors/bQEWbLB26MG1LA?hl=en-GB 27:19 A subtle approach to storytelling I’m so grateful to Grant for making time to talk to us about how he works in and sees the landscape around him. You can find out more about Grant and see examples of his photographs on the following links: Online flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/grantsrogers/ instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grantsimonrogers/ Exhibitions The Last Supper, 42 Webb’s Road, SW11 6SF, London, +44 (0)742 763 6306 or +44 (0)207 223 8900 http://the-lastsupper.com/item/october-2018/ La Camera Chiara, Pestalozzistraße 13 / Berlin / 10625 https://www.lacamerachiara.de/ausstellungen/terra-incognita-02-11-07-12-2019/ With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. I'm grateful, once again, to Rachel for helping me out with the reading. You can find Rachel here: twitter.com/agildedeye. One-to-one online garden coaching I’m very excited about my new venture – it’s a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. If you’d like to find out more, please leave me your email address on the following link. I’ll be sure to let you know as soon as soon as this launches! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching-prelaunch website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB