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NATO needs to increase the costs for Russian aggression while building back crucial dialogue if there is any prospect for improved relations with Moscow.

Key Takeaways:0:00 Intro2:06 Alexander talks about the recent relationship between NATO and Russia, when the Kremlin annexed Crimea from Ukraine and summarizes his paper 3:20 Alexander elaborates on the two track policy that NATO has on Russia which is defense and dialogue where dialogue doesn’t seem to work4:20 Alexander gives his top recommendations to NATO on the policy on Russia6:32 Alexander speaks of The EU putting sanctions on Putin for Crimea so that he could live up to what he agreed to when he signed the Minsk agreements, but it’s all in vain8:32 Alexander covers on NATO not having tools of sanctions, review it so as to have a strategic review of the transatlantic approach to Russia10:00 Alexander discusses why Putin does not take NATO countries seriously even after they impose some threats on him10:55 Alexander also states ways or recommendations in which NATO can make sure that the Russians don't invade NATO territories14:05 Alexander speaks about NATO Russia Founding Act, what it states and how it’s being violated16:07 Alexander talks about who is the most immediate threat to transatlantic security and deserves top billing on NATO’s list of threats 19:40 Alexander talk of what they can do on the dialogue part, now that you can say that the NATO Russia Council is basically dead21:19 Alexander discusses the legitimate subjects for the NATO Russia Council in 2016 which was risk reduction21:43 Alexander and Teri elaborates on what Vienna Document is and the requirements of the document 24:45 Alexander also talks about the New START, what it is and why they think it might die in the near future and the remedy to keep it going30:39 Alexander comments on the hallmarks of the Biden presidency when it comes to the relationship with Russia

Paper Mentioned:https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/nato20-2020/ramp-up-on-russia/

Shows Mentioned:https://medium.com/dfrlab identify, expose, and explain disinformation where and when it occurs using open source research; to promote objective truth as a foundation of government for and by people; to protect democratic institutions and norms from those who would seek to undermine them in the digital engagement space.https://www.osce.org/ is the world's largest security-oriented intergovernmental organization. Its mandate includes issues such as arms control, promotion of human rights, freedom of the press and fair elections. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/

Quotes Mentioned:“Be tougher on pushing back, but also be aggressive with diplomacy in hopes that we can break the deadlock and move to a much more constructive relationship with Russia.”

“Take what we've done well, and now broaden it to those areas where we're not having the necessary effect on Putin and changing his calculus in the way that we need to.”

“You can raise the domestic political costs, in addition to the economic costs, by being more proactive with the release of classified information and open source information that can document exactly what Putin lies about.”

“Biden doesn’t feel that talking with Russia is rewarding their bad behavior, but it's a way to try to convince them to end their bad behavior.”

Guests Social Media Links:Website: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/alexander-sandy-vershbow/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/arvershbow?lang=en

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