Are our global systems on the verge of collapse? Dr Meg Wheatley is an author, systems theorist and management consultant. Her approach includes theories of change, chaos theory , leadership and organisational culture. Meg received her PhD from Harvard University with a focus on organisational and behavioural change, and has written 9 books and nearly 100 articles. Her book, Who Do We Choose to Be, is a deconstruction of the patterns of civilisation collapse and a call to action for courageous leadership in a time of demise. In this episode, we dive into the factors involved in collapse, the progress trap, and how we can show up as leaders in these testing times.