The UK is “muddling towards extinction”, says the Irish thinker and journalist Fintan O’Toole. Neglected by a Westminster political class that’s preoccupied by Brexit, the things that once held it together are disappearing. He tells Ros Taylor how England is embracing a nationalism it can’t articulate, why the SNP has failed to get what it wants, and why the UK is not the natural union that its supporters believe it to be.
“The UK was not a natural occurrence.”
“Englishness knows what it is not, but not what it is.”
“With Brexit, this is always where it was going to end up — and no one in Britain cared.”
“The English reluctantly accepted Scots, but only through an unequal relationship.”
Fintan O’Toole’s latest book is We Don’t Know Ourselves: A Personal History of Ireland since 1958.
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Written and presented by Ros Taylor. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Assistant producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Music: Kenny Dickinson. Group editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production
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“The UK was not a natural occurrence.”
“Englishness knows what it is not, but not what it is.”
“With Brexit, this is always where it was going to end up — and no one in Britain cared.”
“The English reluctantly accepted Scots, but only through an unequal relationship.”
Fintan O’Toole’s latest book is We Don’t Know Ourselves: A Personal History of Ireland since 1958.
https://www.patreon.com/bunkercast
Written and presented by Ros Taylor. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Assistant producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Music: Kenny Dickinson. Group editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production
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