Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is comedian Doug Smith. Doug is a former Jehovah’s Witness who is searching for silver lining in growing up inside a doomsday cult. We talk about how his family got involved with the Jehovah’s Witnesses and what it was like to walk away. Check out Doug’s podcast: Jehovah Boy with Doug Smith Guest Website/Social Media: www.dougsmithcomedy.com Twitter, Instagram, Tik Tok, & YouTube: @whodougsmith Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Sarah Stankorb! Sarah is the author of the book Disobedient Women, which is a culmination of years reporting on women who used the internet to call out abuse within their evangelical communities. It is a book for and about people of faith and those who have walked away. The deeply researched work gives long-overdue recognition to the women who upturned their lives to speak out boldly, even as they were expected to submit and remain silent. Sarah’s articles and essays have appeared in publications including The Washington Post Magazine, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vogue, Marie Claire, Glamour, O Magazine, Longreads, Catapult, Slate, The Guardian, The Atlantic, The Atavist, CNNMoney, GOOD Magazine, Salon, KIWI, Babble, Geez, The Morning News, DAME Magazine, The Christian Science Monitor, Brain, Child Magazine, Proto, Skirt, Bethesda Magazine, and Cincinnati Magazine. Her beat spans politics, the environment, health, technology, religion and cultural commentary. Guest (select) publications: Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning. Guest Website/Social Media: www.sarahstankorb.com Twitter: @sarahstankorb Instagram: @sarahstankorb TikTok: @sarahstankorb Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping! Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Sarah Stankorb! Sarah is the author of the book Disobedient Women, which is a culmination of years reporting on women who used the internet to call out abuse within their evangelical communities. It is a book for and about people of faith and those who have walked away. The deeply researched work gives long-overdue recognition to the women who upturned their lives to speak out boldly, even as they were expected to submit and remain silent. Sarah’s articles and essays have appeared in publications including The Washington Post Magazine, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vogue, Marie Claire, Glamour, O Magazine, Longreads, Catapult, Slate, The Guardian, The Atlantic, The Atavist, CNNMoney, GOOD Magazine, Salon, KIWI, Babble, Geez, The Morning News, DAME Magazine, The Christian Science Monitor, Brain, Child Magazine, Proto, Skirt, Bethesda Magazine, and Cincinnati Magazine. Her beat spans politics, the environment, health, technology, religion and cultural commentary. Guest (select) publications: Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning. Guest Website/Social Media: www.sarahstankorb.com Twitter: @sarahstankorb Instagram: @sarahstankorb TikTok: @sarahstankorb Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping! Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Dr. Greg Garrett! Greg is a writer, speaker, musician, and professor. He’s the critically acclaimed author of over two dozen books of fiction and nonfiction including his latest, “The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity.” Greg studied at Oklahoma State University where he received his PhD in English. He then continued his education with post-doctoral studies in Holocaust Studies at the University of Oregon and later received his Masters in Divinity from the Episcopal Theological Seminary of the Southwest in Austin, Texas. Guest (select) publications: My Church is NOT Dying: Episopalians in the 21st Century; Crossing Myself: A Story of Spiritual Rebirth; We Get To Carry Each Other: The Gospel According to U2; Holy Superheroes; The Gospel According to Hollywood; The Other Jesus: Rejecting a Religion of Fear for the God of Love; Stories From The Edge: A Theology of Grief; Living With The Living Dead: The Wisdom of the Zombie Apocalypse; Entertaining Judgement: The Afterlife in Popular Imagination; The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity James Baldwin (select) publications: The Fire Next Time; Giovanni’s Room; Go Tell It on the Mountain; Notes of a Native Son; Another Country; If Beale Street Could Talk; Nobody Knows My Name Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @Greg1Garrett Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! Check out Factor 75 and use my code deconstruct50 for a great deal: https://www.factor75.com/ This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping! Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Dr. Greg Garrett! Greg is a writer, speaker, musician, and professor. He’s the critically acclaimed author of over two dozen books of fiction and nonfiction including his latest, “The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity.” Greg studied at Oklahoma State University where he received his PhD in English. He then continued his education with post-doctoral studies in Holocaust Studies at the University of Oregon and later received his Masters in Divinity from the Episcopal Theological Seminary of the Southwest in Austin, Texas. Guest (select) publications: My Church is NOT Dying: Episopalians in the 21st Century; Crossing Myself: A Story of Spiritual Rebirth; We Get To Carry Each Other: The Gospel According to U2; Holy Superheroes; The Gospel According to Hollywood; The Other Jesus: Rejecting a Religion of Fear for the God of Love; Stories From The Edge: A Theology of Grief; Living With The Living Dead: The Wisdom of the Zombie Apocalypse; Entertaining Judgement: The Afterlife in Popular Imagination; The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity James Baldwin (select) publications: The Fire Next Time; Giovanni’s Room; Go Tell It on the Mountain; Notes of a Native Son; Another Country; If Beale Street Could Talk; Nobody Knows My Name Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @Greg1Garrett Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! Check out Factor 75 and use my code deconstruct50 for a great deal: https://www.factor75.com/ This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping! Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is the return of the amazing Rabbi Brad Hirschfield! We continue our discussion on stories from what we refer to as the Old Testament from the Christian and Jewish perspectives. This episode we cover the story of the great flood. Listed for many years in Newsweek as one of America’s “50 Most Influential Rabbis,” and recognized as one of our nation’s leading “Preachers & Teachers,” by Beliefnet.com, Fox News regular contributor, Washington Post blogger, and think tank President Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism (Harmony, 2008). He also conceived and hosted two groundbreaking series for Bridges TV—American Muslim TV Network, Building Bridges: Abrahamic Perspectives on the World Today (three seasons), and American Pilgrimage. He is also the Co-founder and Executive Editor of The Wisdom Daily. An expert on religion and public life, Hirschfield offers a unique perspective on the American spiritual landscape and political and social trends to audiences nationwide. A regular on Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, and The Washington Post’s Conversations: Live Q & A, he’s been a contributor on ethical issues for Tru-TV, co-hosted the weekly radio show Hirschfield and Kula and is frequently quoted in the press. A popular guest on such shows as The Dennis Miller Show, Lars Larson, and Fox News.com Live, he has appeared on CNN, PBS, MTV and NPR, among others, and was featured on PBS’s “Frontline: Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero,” and the acclaimed documentary, Freaks Like Me. A regular commentator for The Huffington Post and one of Patheos.com’s Experts, he contributes frequently to Fox News Opinion, writes a column, For God’s Sake, for the WashingtonPost.com’s “On Faith.” His blog, Windows & Doors, appears on Beliefnet.com (the net’s largest site for spirituality and inspiration), and was featured on the homepage of Digg.com. Rabbi Hirschfield is also an interfaith activist, he has inspired audiences from the Aspen Institute and the Washington National Cathedral, to the Islamic Society of North America and many leading universities and religious institutions. A featured speaker at Parliament of the World’s Religions in both Barcelona and Melbourne, he was recently invited by the Governments of the United States and the Republic of Indonesia to speak at the Jakarta Interfaith Dialogue Guest (select) publications: You Don’t Have to Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism Guest Website/Social Media: www.clal.org Twitter: @BradHirschfield Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. Check out our brand new print to order page with new international shipping and brand new designs and products! Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is the return of the amazing Rabbi Brad Hirschfield! We continue our discussion on stories from what we refer to as the Old Testament from the Christian and Jewish perspectives. This episode we cover the story of Cane and Abel. Listed for many years in Newsweek as one of America’s “50 Most Influential Rabbis,” and recognized as one of our nation’s leading “Preachers & Teachers,” by Beliefnet.com, Fox News regular contributor, Washington Post blogger, and think tank President Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism (Harmony, 2008). He also conceived and hosted two groundbreaking series for Bridges TV—American Muslim TV Network, Building Bridges: Abrahamic Perspectives on the World Today (three seasons), and American Pilgrimage. He is also the Co-founder and Executive Editor of The Wisdom Daily. An expert on religion and public life, Hirschfield offers a unique perspective on the American spiritual landscape and political and social trends to audiences nationwide. A regular on Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, and The Washington Post’s Conversations: Live Q & A, he’s been a contributor on ethical issues for Tru-TV, co-hosted the weekly radio show Hirschfield and Kula and is frequently quoted in the press. A popular guest on such shows as The Dennis Miller Show, Lars Larson, and Fox News.com Live, he has appeared on CNN, PBS, MTV and NPR, among others, and was featured on PBS’s “Frontline: Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero,” and the acclaimed documentary, Freaks Like Me. A regular commentator for The Huffington Post and one of Patheos.com’s Experts, he contributes frequently to Fox News Opinion, writes a column, For God’s Sake, for the WashingtonPost.com’s “On Faith.” His blog, Windows & Doors, appears on Beliefnet.com (the net’s largest site for spirituality and inspiration), and was featured on the homepage of Digg.com. Rabbi Hirschfield is also an interfaith activist, he has inspired audiences from the Aspen Institute and the Washington National Cathedral, to the Islamic Society of North America and many leading universities and religious institutions. A featured speaker at Parliament of the World’s Religions in both Barcelona and Melbourne, he was recently invited by the Governments of the United States and the Republic of Indonesia to speak at the Jakarta Interfaith Dialogue Guest (select) publications: You Don’t Have to Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism Guest Website/Social Media: www.clal.org Twitter: @BradHirschfield Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: Part 2 of my conversation with the amazing Dr. Janet Kellogg Ray! Dr. Ray currently teaches biology at the University of North Texas and speaks and writes at the intersection of science, culture, and faith. We discuss the disconnect between faith and science and why science isn’t at odds with religion. She is an adjunct clinical assistant professor at the University of North Texas in the Department of Biological Sciences. She holds a PhD in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of North Texas, a M.Ed. in Gifted Education from Hardin-Simmons University and a B.S.Ed. in biology from Abilene Christian University. Guest (select) Published Works: Baby Dinosaurs on the Ark? The Bible and Modern Science and the Trouble of Making It All Fit; The God of Monkey Science: People of Faith in a Modern Scientific World Guest Links: www.janetkray.com Instagram: @janetkelloggray Twitter: @janetkelloggray Facebook: @janetkelloggray Theme music by: Forrest Clay “Does God” & “Recover” can be found on the brand new EP, Recover You can find Forrest Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Check out Factor 75 and use my code deconstruct50 for a great deal: https://www.factor75.com/ Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week I welcome Dr. Janet Kellogg Ray! Dr. Ray currently teaches biology at the University of North Texas and speaks and writes at the intersection of science, culture, and faith. We discuss the disconnect between faith and science and why science isn’t at odds with religion. She is an adjunct clinical assistant professor at the University of North Texas in the Department of Biological Sciences. She holds a PhD in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of North Texas, a M.Ed. in Gifted Education from Hardin-Simmons University and a B.S.Ed. in biology from Abilene Christian University. Guest (select) Published Works: Baby Dinosaurs on the Ark? The Bible and Modern Science and the Trouble of Making It All Fit; The God of Monkey Science: People of Faith in a Modern Scientific World Guest Links: www.janetkray.com Instagram: @janetkelloggray Twitter: @janetkelloggray Facebook: @janetkelloggray Theme music by: Forrest Clay “Does God” & “Recover” can be found on the brand new EP, Recover You can find Forrest Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Check out Factor 75 and use my code deconstruct50 for a great deal: https://www.factor75.com/ Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Pastor/Author/Podcaster Derek Kubilus. Derek just released a fantastic book on the topic of Hell, how we came to view Hell as we do, and what that says about how we view God. Derek is an ordained elder serving in the East Ohio Conference of the United Methodist Church. He is also a member of the Order of Saint Luke and an amateur podcaster. Guest (select) publications: The Real War on Terror: Waging Holy War in the Peaceful Kingdom; Holy Hell: A Case against Eternal Damnation Check out Derek’s podcast: Cross Over Q Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @DerekKubilus1 Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh! Go to www.hellofresh.com/50deconstruct and use code 50deconstruct for 50% off PLUS free shipping! Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Pastor/Author/Podcaster Derek Kubilus. Derek just released a fantastic book on the topic of Hell, how we came to view Hell as we do, and what that says about how we view God. Derek is an ordained elder serving in the East Ohio Conference of the United Methodist Church. He is also a member of the Order of Saint Luke and an amateur podcaster. Guest (select) publications: The Real War on Terror: Waging Holy War in the Peaceful Kingdom; Holy Hell: A Case against Eternal Damnation Check out Derek’s podcast: Cross Over Q Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @DerekKubilus1 Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh! Go to www.hellofresh.com/50deconstruct and use code 50deconstruct for 50% off PLUS free shipping! Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Dr. Mohammad Khalil! Dr. Khalil is professor of religious studies, director of the Muslim Studies Program, and Adjunct Professor in the College of Law at Michigan State University. HIs speciality is Islamic thought, and much of his research revolves around Muslim conceptions of and interactions with non-Muslims. Guest (select) publications: Islam and the Fate of Others: The Salvation Question; Jihad, Radicalism, and the New Atheism. Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @khalilmsu Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh! Go to www.hellofresh.com/50deconstruct and use code 50deconstruct for 50% off PLUS free shipping! Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Dr. Mohammad Khalil! Dr. Khalil is professor of religious studies, director of the Muslim Studies Program, and Adjunct Professor in the College of Law at Michigan State University. HIs speciality is Islamic thought, and much of his research revolves around Muslim conceptions of and interactions with non-Muslims. Guest (select) publications: Islam and the Fate of Others: The Salvation Question; Jihad, Radicalism, and the New Atheism. Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @khalilmsu Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh! Go to www.hellofresh.com/50deconstruct and use code 50deconstruct for 50% off PLUS free shipping! Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is the return of the amazing Rabbi Brad Hirschfield! We discuss stories from what we refer to as the Old Testament from the Christian and Jewish perspectives. This is part 1 of 2. Listed for many years in Newsweek as one of America’s “50 Most Influential Rabbis,” and recognized as one of our nation’s leading “Preachers & Teachers,” by Beliefnet.com, Fox News regular contributor, Washington Post blogger, and think tank President Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism (Harmony, 2008). He also conceived and hosted two groundbreaking series for Bridges TV—American Muslim TV Network, Building Bridges: Abrahamic Perspectives on the World Today (three seasons), and American Pilgrimage. He is also the Co-founder and Executive Editor of The Wisdom Daily. An expert on religion and public life, Hirschfield offers a unique perspective on the American spiritual landscape and political and social trends to audiences nationwide. A regular on Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, and The Washington Post’s Conversations: Live Q & A, he’s been a contributor on ethical issues for Tru-TV, co-hosted the weekly radio show Hirschfield and Kula and is frequently quoted in the press. A popular guest on such shows as The Dennis Miller Show, Lars Larson, and Fox News.com Live, he has appeared on CNN, PBS, MTV and NPR, among others, and was featured on PBS’s “Frontline: Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero,” and the acclaimed documentary, Freaks Like Me. A regular commentator for The Huffington Post and one of Patheos.com’s Experts, he contributes frequently to Fox News Opinion, writes a column, For God’s Sake, for the WashingtonPost.com’s “On Faith.” His blog, Windows & Doors, appears on Beliefnet.com (the net’s largest site for spirituality and inspiration), and was featured on the homepage of Digg.com. Rabbi Hirschfield is also an interfaith activist, he has inspired audiences from the Aspen Institute and the Washington National Cathedral, to the Islamic Society of North America and many leading universities and religious institutions. A featured speaker at Parliament of the World’s Religions in both Barcelona and Melbourne, he was recently invited by the Governments of the United States and the Republic of Indonesia to speak at the Jakarta Interfaith Dialogue Guest (select) publications: You Don’t Have to Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism Guest Website/Social Media: www.clal.org Twitter: @BradHirschfield Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is the return of the amazing Rabbi Brad Hirschfield! We discuss stories from what we refer to as the Old Testament from the Christian and Jewish perspectives. This is part 1 of 2. Listed for many years in Newsweek as one of America’s “50 Most Influential Rabbis,” and recognized as one of our nation’s leading “Preachers & Teachers,” by Beliefnet.com, Fox News regular contributor, Washington Post blogger, and think tank President Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism (Harmony, 2008). He also conceived and hosted two groundbreaking series for Bridges TV—American Muslim TV Network, Building Bridges: Abrahamic Perspectives on the World Today (three seasons), and American Pilgrimage. He is also the Co-founder and Executive Editor of The Wisdom Daily. An expert on religion and public life, Hirschfield offers a unique perspective on the American spiritual landscape and political and social trends to audiences nationwide. A regular on Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, and The Washington Post’s Conversations: Live Q & A, he’s been a contributor on ethical issues for Tru-TV, co-hosted the weekly radio show Hirschfield and Kula and is frequently quoted in the press. A popular guest on such shows as The Dennis Miller Show, Lars Larson, and Fox News.com Live, he has appeared on CNN, PBS, MTV and NPR, among others, and was featured on PBS’s “Frontline: Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero,” and the acclaimed documentary, Freaks Like Me. A regular commentator for The Huffington Post and one of Patheos.com’s Experts, he contributes frequently to Fox News Opinion, writes a column, For God’s Sake, for the WashingtonPost.com’s “On Faith.” His blog, Windows & Doors, appears on Beliefnet.com (the net’s largest site for spirituality and inspiration), and was featured on the homepage of Digg.com. Rabbi Hirschfield is also an interfaith activist, he has inspired audiences from the Aspen Institute and the Washington National Cathedral, to the Islamic Society of North America and many leading universities and religious institutions. A featured speaker at Parliament of the World’s Religions in both Barcelona and Melbourne, he was recently invited by the Governments of the United States and the Republic of Indonesia to speak at the Jakarta Interfaith Dialogue Guest (select) publications: You Don’t Have to Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism Guest Website/Social Media: www.clal.org Twitter: @BradHirschfield Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is the amazing Rabbi Brad Hirschfield and part 2 of our conversion. Listed for many years in Newsweek as one of America’s “50 Most Influential Rabbis,” and recognized as one of our nation’s leading “Preachers & Teachers,” by Beliefnet.com, Fox News regular contributor, Washington Post blogger, and think tank President Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism (Harmony, 2008). He also conceived and hosted two groundbreaking series for Bridges TV—American Muslim TV Network, Building Bridges: Abrahamic Perspectives on the World Today (three seasons), and American Pilgrimage. He is also the Co-founder and Executive Editor of The Wisdom Daily. An expert on religion and public life, Hirschfield offers a unique perspective on the American spiritual landscape and political and social trends to audiences nationwide. A regular on Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, and The Washington Post’s Conversations: Live Q & A, he’s been a contributor on ethical issues for Tru-TV, co-hosted the weekly radio show Hirschfield and Kula and is frequently quoted in the press. A popular guest on such shows as The Dennis Miller Show, Lars Larson, and Fox News.com Live, he has appeared on CNN, PBS, MTV and NPR, among others, and was featured on PBS’s “Frontline: Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero,” and the acclaimed documentary, Freaks Like Me. A regular commentator for The Huffington Post and one of Patheos.com’s Experts, he contributes frequently to Fox News Opinion, writes a column, For God’s Sake, for the WashingtonPost.com’s “On Faith.” His blog, Windows & Doors, appears on Beliefnet.com (the net’s largest site for spirituality and inspiration), and was featured on the homepage of Digg.com. Rabbi Hirschfield is also an interfaith activist, he has inspired audiences from the Aspen Institute and the Washington National Cathedral, to the Islamic Society of North America and many leading universities and religious institutions. A featured speaker at Parliament of the World’s Religions in both Barcelona and Melbourne, he was recently invited by the Governments of the United States and the Republic of Indonesia to speak at the Jakarta Interfaith Dialogue Guest (select) publications: You Don’t Have to Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism Guest Website/Social Media: www.clal.org Twitter: @BradHirschfield Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is the amazing Rabbi Brad Hirschfield! Listed for many years in Newsweek as one of America’s “50 Most Influential Rabbis,” and recognized as one of our nation’s leading “Preachers & Teachers,” by Beliefnet.com, Fox News regular contributor, Washington Post blogger, and think tank President Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism (Harmony, 2008). He also conceived and hosted two groundbreaking series for Bridges TV—American Muslim TV Network, Building Bridges: Abrahamic Perspectives on the World Today (three seasons), and American Pilgrimage. He is also the Co-founder and Executive Editor of The Wisdom Daily. An expert on religion and public life, Hirschfield offers a unique perspective on the American spiritual landscape and political and social trends to audiences nationwide. A regular on Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, and The Washington Post’s Conversations: Live Q & A, he’s been a contributor on ethical issues for Tru-TV, co-hosted the weekly radio show Hirschfield and Kula and is frequently quoted in the press. A popular guest on such shows as The Dennis Miller Show, Lars Larson, and Fox News.com Live, he has appeared on CNN, PBS, MTV and NPR, among others, and was featured on PBS’s “Frontline: Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero,” and the acclaimed documentary, Freaks Like Me. A regular commentator for The Huffington Post and one of Patheos.com’s Experts, he contributes frequently to Fox News Opinion, writes a column, For God’s Sake, for the WashingtonPost.com’s “On Faith.” His blog, Windows & Doors, appears on Beliefnet.com (the net’s largest site for spirituality and inspiration), and was featured on the homepage of Digg.com. Rabbi Hirschfield is also an interfaith activist, he has inspired audiences from the Aspen Institute and the Washington National Cathedral, to the Islamic Society of North America and many leading universities and religious institutions. A featured speaker at Parliament of the World’s Religions in both Barcelona and Melbourne, he was recently invited by the Governments of the United States and the Republic of Indonesia to speak at the Jakarta Interfaith Dialogue Guest (select) publications: You Don’t Have to Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism Guest Website/Social Media: www.clal.org Twitter: @BradHirschfield Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Dr. Chris Hoklotubbe! Chris serves as both an assistant professor of Classics at Cornell College in Mount Vernon, Iowa, in his capacity of teaching courses on Christianity and world religions , and as director of graduate studies for NAIITS: An Indigenous learning community. Dr. Hoklotubbe (Choctaw) teaches courses on the intersection of race, gender, and sexuality in the Christian Tradition, the New Testament, Roman Religion, Native American Spiritualities, World Religions, and Religion and American Politics. He also co-leads interdisciplinary off-campus courses that explore the theme of pilgrimage along "El Camino de Santiago" in Northern Spain (Summer 2021, with Spanish), the topics of ancient philosophy, religion, politics, and archaeology in Greece and Turkey (Spring 2021, with Classics), and the history, art, and culture of North American Indigenous tribes (coming 2022-23, with Art History). His book, “Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017), brings together his research interests in early Christianity, Greco-Roman archaeology, ancient philosophy, and critical theory. Hoklotubbe has also written on Native American interpretations of the Bible and the concept of "Docetism" in Early Christian studies. He continues to research and write on the Pastoral Epistles and Native American interpretations of the Bible. He’s currently co-writing a book on Indigenous Interpretations of the Bible with Cree First Nations New Testament scholar, Daniel Zacharias, which will be published with InterVarsity Press. Guest (select) publications: Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017) Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @DocHoklo NAIITS: A Learning Community: www.naiits.com Eloheh an Indigenous centyer for Earth Justice: www.eloheh.org Good Medicine Way: https://gmwgathering.org Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct16 for 16 FREE meals PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest Info/Bio: This week’s guest is Dr. Chris Hoklotubbe! Chris serves as both an assistant professor of Classics at Cornell College in Mount Vernon, Iowa, in his capacity of teaching courses on Christianity and world religions , and as director of graduate studies for NAIITS: An Indigenous learning community. Dr. Hoklotubbe (Choctaw) teaches courses on the intersection of race, gender, and sexuality in the Christian Tradition, the New Testament, Roman Religion, Native American Spiritualities, World Religions, and Religion and American Politics. He also co-leads interdisciplinary off-campus courses that explore the theme of pilgrimage along "El Camino de Santiago" in Northern Spain (Summer 2021, with Spanish), the topics of ancient philosophy, religion, politics, and archaeology in Greece and Turkey (Spring 2021, with Classics), and the history, art, and culture of North American Indigenous tribes (coming 2022-23, with Art History). His book, “Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017), brings together his research interests in early Christianity, Greco-Roman archaeology, ancient philosophy, and critical theory. Hoklotubbe has also written on Native American interpretations of the Bible and the concept of "Docetism" in Early Christian studies. He continues to research and write on the Pastoral Epistles and Native American interpretations of the Bible. He’s currently co-writing a book on Indigenous Interpretations of the Bible with Cree First Nations New Testament scholar, Daniel Zacharias, which will be published with InterVarsity Press. Guest (select) publications: Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017) Guest Website/Social Media: Twitter: @DocHoklo NAIITS: A Learning Community: www.naiits.com Eloheh an Indigenous centyer for Earth Justice: www.eloheh.org Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay Instagram: @forrestclaymusic Twitter: @clay_k YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct16 for 16 FREE meals PLUS free shipping! This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy