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The Probiotic Life

051 - Probiotic Musings, Science & Philosophy with Ben Klenner


In this episode I’m flying solo… talking about my thoughts on living a probiotic life. It’s a question I ask myself regularly, and I challenge you to have a question that you ask yourself. It’s a form of meditation; asking yourself a question over a period of time.

Join me as I share a little more of my journey from the last year or so, and where asking this question has taken me. I delve into science, its applications and its limitations, and compare it to traditional eastern thinking, specifically Traditional Chinese Medicine. I go into the wisdom of nature, an ancient knowledge that expresses itself in the patterns all around us. Observing these patterns and rhythms with a curious mind and heart can lead to the understanding that we are all connected.

I then share some of the books that have influenced me in the last year or so.

These include:

Braiding Sweetgrass

Robin Wall-Kimmerer


Henry David Thoreau

One Straw Revolution

Masanobu Fukuoka

The Girl Who Sang To The Buffalo

Kent Nerburn

Little House On The Prairie series

Laura Ingles Wilder

One I forgot to mention is:

The Secret Teachings of Plants

Stephen Harrod Buhner

Here are a few other links I mention throughout the episode too. Well worth the look.

The microscope course I took was with Earthwhile Australia


Yellowstone Wolves




In summary, I believe we are supposed to be connected through our senses; to plants, to animals, to microbes, to each other.

To have the humility to admit we only know a fragment of what life is, and the willingness to trust Nature, and to trust what I call God; the Creator.

I hope this, like other episodes, inspires you to dig deeper, to ask your own exploratory question.

Thanks for being on the journey, and I’d love to hear from you!

May the beneficial microbes be with you.

Until next time,



Episode 51

by Ben Klenner