Mary and David reflect on the last two years of the Third Place Podcast and share what has been emerging in part because of this work. Our society is in a moment where we need the principles of the Third Place now more than ever. As we wrestle with this difficult season, the question remains, how can we create safe places for ourselves and for others by offering postures of humility, curiosity, and offering generous perspectives. Our hope is that you have learned to embodied the third place into your everyday lives and you feel equipped to offer a new depth and safety in all of your relationships. And as always, be well! ******* Learn more about Mary's next chapter of work here: https://www.ellementcollective.com/ David's next chapter can be found here: https://socialenterprise.us/ ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

Lani is a well known coffee-writer and global food industry consultant, and has has published best-selling coffee books in the USA, Finland, Sweden, China, Korea, Thailand and the UK. In her work, she has written about the history of what a third place is through the lens of the coffee shop. She has over a decade of experience in every corner of the food industry (and every corner of the world), including serving as a barista in London. This interview is a lot of fun and shows how important third places are in our lives. After talking with Lani, we would even say that to fully live this human experience is to include finding your own Third Place. ******* www.lanikingston.com In addition to writing books about coffee, Lani has written culinary articles for a range of print magazines and newspapers; set-up and managed London’s largest bean-to-bar chocolate factory; headed up a cooking school run entirely with ‘food waste’; worked as one of Chef Dan Barber’s senior managers at his World 50 Best Restaurant Blue Hill at Stone Barns in Upstate New York; judged food and coffee for the UK’s prestigious annual Great Taste Awards; set up food brands and retail stores in Singapore; and traveled and researched food production and preparation all around the world. With over a decade of experience in every corner of the industry (and every corner of the world), Lani saw first hand where food businesses were most in need of support. In response, she started a global food and beverage support agency, Four Seasons of Food, offering on-call, highly experienced and affordable staff for the movers and shakers of the food world. What Lani loves most about her work is that she never stops exploring and learning. Throughout her career, she's been lucky enough to bake pies in English bakeries, learn about hunting reindeer from Fäviken’s gunsmith, tap maple trees in Wisconsin, mill flour in an 1800’s Lincolnshire windmill, cook Peranakan cakes with Singaporean grandmothers, eat rattlesnake in the Arizona desert, forage for wild food at River Cottage, spend Swedish Midsummer on a potato farm, venture deep under the streets of London to harvest herbs from disused Air Raid bunkers, harvest cacao with local farmers in the hills of Kerala, India – and much more! ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

Conflict. As the world has continued to recover from lockdowns and physically being with people, the environment has left us all in a tense state and it seems like conflicts are all around us. We don't like conflict and most try to avoid it at all costs. That being said, it is one of the topics that we enjoy talking about the most - not because we love conflict, but because every relationship has it. And when you can “do conflict” well - when you can meet in that messy grey third place and bring in both perspectives - then it can really lead to new depths of relationship, which is such a beautiful gift. ******* Do you lead a team and are looking for help with resolving conflict, or developing a vibrant and healthy team culture? We would be happy to connect about our consulting work and how we could help you bring the Third Place to your organization. Email us and we'll set up a time to connect at info@thirdplacepodcast.com ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

For many cisgender people who are working to become advocates for others, there can be a learning curve when it comes to using new pronouns for non-binary individuals. One common hurdle for many people is that we are often surrounded by people who look like us. So when we have the opportunity to meet someone outside of our life’s experiences, and we can meet in a safe place to learn from each other, it’s a moment that we can come to treasure greatly in helping us to expand my worldviews. That is why Mary and David were so happy to invite Silen Wellington the to podcast. Silen Wellington is a member of the LGBTQ+ community and is striving to make the world a better place as the Alliance for Suicide Prevetion’s LGBTQ+ Youth Outreach Coordinator. Silen believes every young person needs a space to explore who they are and be witnessed for their unique gifts. ******* Silen’s background is in psychology and music composition, and they are passionate about mental health, advocacy, and community building. Outside of work, they enjoy world-building through performance art, harvesting stories, continual transformation, and unhinged-unfettered-unapologetic dance. Silen’s superpower is creating spaces where people feel safe to come closer to their authentic selves. silenwellington.com allianceforsuicideprevention.org mypronouns.org/what-and-why ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

Middle School. Even saying this phrase can immediately bring up memories of awkwardness for many people. But it's also a formative time of life that gives us space to develop our relational skills and shape who we are. As we learn in our conversation with Chris Balme, there are new possibilities when we shift our perspective to view this as an opportunity to build into young people. This can radically change our perspective about this time and equip us as adults to be better guides for this foundational moment of life. ******* Click HERE to learn how to support Chris's Kickstarter campaign. ******* Chris Balme is an education leader, writing, and school founder, passionate about helping young people discover more of their human potential. As Co-Founder and Head of School at Millennium School, a lab school in San Francisco, Chris helped pioneer new learning methods for middle schoolers, based in developmental science. Chris then founded Argonaut, an online program to bring social-emotional learning to more students. He received the Ashoka Fellowship as a leading change-maker in education, and regularly speaks, trains, and writes for parents and teachers around the world. His book, Finding the Magic in Middle School is about how we can use developmental science to understand and enjoy the middle school years much more, whether we're parents, teachers, or in the broader education world, and will be released in September 2022. chrisbalme.com millenniumschool.org argonaut.school ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

Two years into the pandemic of COVID-19, many people are feeling overwhelmed and over stressed. Our nervous systems are exhausted and we can more easily be in heightened states of emotions, including our fight or flight responses. Polyvagal Theory gives us language to help us understand how our nervous systems processes our emotions in states of safety and in fight or flight, and can help us navigate how to better process and interact with others. Deb Dana, LCSW is a clinician, consultant and author specializing in complex trauma. Her work is focused on using the lens of Polyvagal Theory to understand and resolve the impact of trauma, and creating ways of working that honor the role of the autonomic nervous system. She is a founding member of the Polyvagal Institute and developer of the signature Rhythm of Regulation Clinical Training Series. Deb is well known for translating Polyvagal Theory into a language and application that is both understandable and accessible - for clinicians and curious people alike. ******* Deb’s clinical work published with W.W. Norton includes The Polyvagal Theory in Therapy: Engaging the Rhythm of Regulation, Polyvagal Exercises for Safety and Connection: 50 Client Centered Practices, and the Polyvagal Flip Chart. She partners with Sounds True to bring her polyvagal perspective to a general audience through the audio program Befriending Your Nervous System: Looking Through the Lens of Polyvagal Theory and her print book Anchored: How to Befriend Your Nervous System Using Polyvagal Theory. Deb can be contacted via her website www.rhythmofregulation.com ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

How do we talk about sex? When thinking about uncomfortable conversations, it’s always one of the first questions comes to mind. How and when do we talk about it with our kids? How do we talk about it with our partner? And in thinking about things like the “Me too” movement and realizing that we’re at an age when we need safer boundaries around sex and pursuing healthier masculinity and femininity, it’s one of the areas of life where we need to have better communication and language. Over the past 25 years, Erwan Davon and his wife Alicia have successfully taught over 12,000 singles and couples how to have exceptional relationships, and have become the go-to experts for those seeking a higher level of relationship support. ******* Erwan is the founder, senior teacher and president of San Francisco based Erwan Davon Teachings. Together with Alicia, they specialize in supporting singles in getting into passionate and successful relationships, and helping couples take their relationships to new heights of romance and intimacy. Being based in the San Francisco Bay Area, Erwan and Alicia provide a high end boutique service that gives their clients an effective way to enhance their relationships. They also offer all of their coaching and classes online and support students all over the world. erwandavon.com pleasurecourse.com ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

All of us wrestle with finding meaning, fulfillment and purpose in our lives. Empowering people find their purpose while also becoming the best version of ourselves is the passion that led our guest Bob Lessor to write his book, The Peak Performance Formula. In this actionable guide to achieving one's peak performance, Lesser shares his analysis of the three pillars of success: purpose, values, and vision. He incorporates case studies from real-life peak performers: people and organizations that are the best and the brightest. ******* Bob is a trained psychotherapist and executive coach working primarily with start-up founders in the San Francisco Bay Area, New York City, Boston, Canada and elsewhere. He studied management, negotiation and leadership at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government where he holds a Masters Degree and obtained his BA in sociology from Vassar College. Bob also lived in Vietnam where he studied meditation and buddhism. He lives in Oakland, California with his wife and three children. boblessor.com Book: The Peak Performance Formula ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

The New Year is often a time to take a pause and hit a reset button so to speak. Sometimes this includes new mindfulness practices, sometimes new diet or exercise routines… It seems like the best times to make changes or create new habits are when there is a pivotal moment in your life. Well, for our guest Jo Schaalman, it was when she was literally hit by a truck. Jo was a state champion gymnast, a nationally ranked diver and a diving coach. While prepping for medical school she was t-boned by a semi-truck during a cross-country bike tour. As a result of the accident, Jo was told that she wouldn’t live a normal life, let alone become a doctor. Her recovery process was both physically and emotionally grueling, but through her healing she was able to unlock some universal healing principles that could not only help, but other people as well. These discoveries are key foundations of the Conscious Cleanse. Because of her experience, Jo is driven to help people who think healing is out of their reach. Although she never became a doctor, Jo has been able to fulfill her lifelong mission of helping people heal. ******* Jo has impacted thousands of people through the live online Conscious Cleanse and sold over 25,000 of their best selling Conscious Cleanse book. Jo graduated with honors from Grinnell College with a degree in Biology and Pre-Med. She’s co-published papers on women’s health and reproduction while working with Dr. Newcomer at the Medical College of Wisconsin. She studied at a Master’s level at the Nutrition Therapy Institute and worked closely with Dr. Theron Randolph, the father of environmental medicine and clinical ecology. She is also a nationally recognized yoga teacher who has taught workshops around the country and has been featured on Gaiam TV and Yogadownload. consciouscleanse.com ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

The Winter Solstice is one of our favorite days of the year. While being the shortest day for the northern hemisphere, it also can represent beginnings and new light in each of coming days. This is a fun and playful reflection where Mary and David share some of their favorite moments this past year as well as inviting you in to play "Two Truths and a Lie" as they look ahead to the year to come. ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

*This is a replay of one of our favorite episodes this past year! If you've ever been told "you're too sensitive," you're probably immediately hearing that as a negative comment. But being a highly sensitive person is actually an innate and highly unique trait, and as HSP expert Julie Bjelland points out, it is not a disorder, but rather a trait that has helped us to evolve. People with this trait have specially developed abilities that helped them be good at finding food, mates, and a safe place for the tribe to live. Nearly 20% of our population is considered Highly Sensitive, and in our conversation, we learn how to understand the experience of an HSP (highly sensitive person) so that we may tap into the gifts of sensitivity. ******* Julie Bjelland is a Psychotherapist, host of The HSP Podcast, and Founder of the Sensitive Empowerment Community, whose mission is to create a paradigm shift where sensitivity is embraced, valued and honored. Empowering sensitive people to recognize, access, nurture and share their gifts, her Blog, Books, and Courses offer valuable resources. Get a free guide to calm your brain, and take the Sensitivity Quiz at JulieBjelland.com ❤️🌈❤️ ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

We are replaying one of our favorite episodes from this past year! The Third Place is about creating space to have hard conversations. However, part of what is necessary for creating the element of safety required to even begin to discuss these difficult topics is first ensuring that our basic needs are met. The ability to engage in difficult conversations is also a sign privilege. If you’re hungry and worried about where your next meal will come from for you and your family, then you simply do not have the capacity to think about greater issues. You just need food. So, what are our basic needs? And, how can we do the work of first helping meet those needs before we try to engage in dialogue? ******* Dr. Liz, as she is affectionately called by friends and colleagues alike, is a social psychologist specializing in how past relationships unconsciously influence or re-emerge in present relationships, for better or worse. Born and raised at the Jersey Shore, she moved to NYC to study psychology and philosophy at Barnard College ('05) and research clinical epidemiology at the NYS Psychiatric Institute. She received her Ph.D. in Social Psychology at NYU ('14) and has since been teaching a variety of courses on social and emotional development, cognition, and social behavior at University of Pennsylvania, Brooklyn College, and NYU. Dr. Liz is currently a Clinical Assistant Professor and a Program Coordinator in the NYU Psychology Masters Program, where she teaches research, statistics, and social behavior, while working to keep the day-to-day runnings of the program in high gear. Arguably obsessed with social-cognition, and the ways in which our knowledge systems, needs, emotions, and behaviors are often unconsciously learned and become resistant to change, she is currently exploring in her research how the need for shared reality with others can interplay with experience to create meaning systems that shape one's values and worldviews. Outside of work, Dr. Liz spends a lot of time with her extraordinarily large immediate family (including her own twin sister, Sarah), and has hobbies that include houseplants, running, hiking, cooking, beach life, and spending time in the "emo/post-hardcore" music scene. ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

Menstruation and Periods are a normal part of life. Actually, let's start that sentence over... Life would not exist without menstrual cycles. So, why is there so much stigma around the topic? This week we welcome Kate Morton from Funk It Wellness to talk about menstruation and throughout our conversation, there were several eye opening, paradigm shift moments that came from talking about periods and women's menstrual health in a safe space. Many women are continuing to learn about their health many, many years after they have had their first period. But also, other conversations around work, business, productivity, living one's best life, and even removing the negative effects of patriarchal systems are all connected to having thoughtful and open communication about periods. ******* Kate Morton is a Registered Dietitian & the founder of Funk It Wellness. She has a master's degree in Human Clinical Nutrition that focuses on women's health and fertility. Funk It is a menstrual health company that makes natural products to empower and support the entire cycle. We offer inclusive education and products that are both empowering and delicious. funkitwellness.com ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

The Holiday Season... a time for family, social gatherings, cold nights and warm fires. For many people, these moments are also filled with alcoholic drinks in hand, and the notion is that if you're not drinking along, you're also not having as much fun. For those who struggle with alcohol and other substance use, this is a time that can be a significant struggle where you may wish you could avoid gatherings all together. We are grateful to be able to share an honest conversation about sobriety as we enter this season. Ellen Elizabeth joins us to share her journey with alcohol and substance abuse, her hardest moments and how it directly impacted herself, her family and her career. Her road to recovery is an inspiration to all! Especially if you or someone you know struggles with alcohol and substance, this episode is a great resource to share along as Ellen's story leaves us with a sense of hope, encouragement and even resources to guide others on the recovery journey. ******* Ellen is a 36 year old Colorado native who is celebrating over 4 years of sobriety and the proud mother of twins. She lives with her family of 4 in Colorado Springs, CO and currently works in Corporate Ethics for a well known defense contractor. Ellen loves animals, especially her dog Diego, as well as the multitude of outdoor activities Colorado has to offer and is very passionate about the French language. When not working or engaging in the joys of raising twins, she enjoys being a wellness influencer on many different social media platforms to anyone struggling with addiction or infertility. Ellen is here to support anyone struggling now, anyone who is in recovery, or family members of those struggling. www.itsellenelizbeth.com instagram.com/itsellenelizabeth ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

"Hurt people, hurt people." This powerful and profound phrase holds so much truth. When you are a victim of any form of trauma, and you have the healing and ability needed to step back and look at the person who caused you pain, you can often find that the hurtful behavior patterns that someone exhibits stem from pain that another person had caused them earlier in their lives. We asked Tejal to join us today to specifically talk about Narcissistic behaviors and how these negative behavior patterns could be broken. Tejal Patel is the host of the Time-In Talks Podcast, and author of The Mom’s Choice Gold Award winning book Meditation for Kids: 40 Activities to Manage Emotions, Ease Anxiety and Stay Focused and motivational speaker. Her doable approach to family meditation and mindfully handling meltdowns (yours and your kids) sets her apart from the traditional self-help crowd and makes her a go-to expert for modern parents who want to NamaSLAY stress, snap less and raise mindful kids too. ******* Tejal V Patel is a former divorce attorney turned certified mindful parenting coach, breathwork, meditation and mindfulness expert for families. Tejal has appeared in NBC10, Fox 29, Phl17, Pix 11, Yoga Journal, Parents Magazine, The Huffington Post, Us Weekly Magazine among other places spreading awareness about the Kids Can Meditate movement tejalvpatel.com https://instagram.com/tejalvpatel ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

Introverts and Extroverts and learning to understand their differences is always a fascinating topic! Do you gain energy from being around a lot of people and processing out loud? OR, do you absolutely crave complete aloneness and silence to replenish your being? Or both?!? Sara Lewis loves to empower introverted small business owners to use their personality to their advantage. As the founder of Introverts Emerge, she created a brand dedicated to the growth of introverted entrepreneurs. Through coaching and training, Sara helps entrepreneurs put themselves out there, gain confidence, and grow their business successfully. ******* Sara has written for multiple trade journals including the IDEA Fitness Journal, Personal Fitness Professional, and SparkPeople.com. When she’s not coaching, you can find Sara relaxing at home, walking her dog, or reading a good book. introvertsemerge.com ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

Karla McLaren, M.Ed. is an award-winning author, social science researcher, and empathy pioneer. Her lifelong work focuses on her grand unified theory of emotions, which revalues even the most “negative” emotions and opens startling new pathways into self-awareness, effective communication, and healthy empathy. She is the founder and CEO of Emotion Dynamics LLC and the developer of the Empathy Academy online learning site. Her applied work, Dynamic Emotional Integration® (also known as DEI) is a trailblazing approach to emotions and empathy that reveals the genius and the healing power within the emotional realm. Licensed DEI professionals are available across the globe. Today, Karla shares with us her experiences that led her to becoming an expert of emotions, and shared with us her Emotional Vocabulary List, which gives us insight to our 18 different emotions, how they show up in our lives, and what they are trying to tell us. ******* Karla is the author of many books, audio learning programs, and online courses, including Embracing Anxiety: How to Access the Genius of this Vital Emotion (2020), The Dynamic Emotional Integration® Workbook (2018), The Art of Empathy: A Complete Guide to Life’s Most Essential Skill (2013), The Language of Emotions: What Your Feelings are Trying to Tell You (2010), and the multi-media online course Emotional Flow: Becoming Fluent in the Language of Emotions (2012). Karla is also the coauthor (with cult expert Dr. Janja Lalich) of Escaping Utopia: Growing Up in a Cult, Getting Out, and Starting Over, which focuses on Dr. Lalich’s groundbreaking study of seventy people who were born in or grew up in forty different cults spanning twelve countries (Routledge, 2017). Her newest book, The Power of Emotions at Work: Accessing the Vital Intelligence in Your Workplace, will be released in August of 2021. KarlaMcLaren.com EmpathyAcademy.org ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

In July, we shared a conversation with Beverly Horstman & David Lapp of Braver Angels - an organization formed shortly after the 2016 election to bring reds and blues together and heal the wounds between left and right. Today we welcome Chris and Kim Watson, two active members of Braver Angels who find themselves on different sides of the aisle, but within their marriage. One of the core functions of politics is to work towards figuring out our social contracts with each other… What are our rules as we work, play and all live together. Marriage is similar in that we’re constantly working on how we live together in our homes - so very political, just on a much smaller scale. Mary and I were both very curious to learn from Chris and Kim what they have learned from each other while being on opposite sides of politics. They have been married for 33 years and live in Oregonia, OH, about 30 miles north of Cincinnati. ******* Braver Angels was inspired by the words of Abraham Lincoln, who not only called on Americans to summon the “better angels” of our nature — but called on us to find the courage needed to pursue a more perfect union, “with malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right.” To meet the current moment, at this time of national crisis, we need more than civility. We need to challenge ourselves to work together when we disagree. We need bravery. braverangels.org ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

We welcome back Sara Blanchard and Misasha Suzuki Graham of The Dear White Women podcast to tell us about their new book! Sara and Misasha have become dear friends to The Third Place. They share with us why they wrote this book, and give their unique perspectives of race in America. This book is amazing! So please, check it out! And also, be sure to review on Amazon! ******* WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP? This is a question that many seemingly well intentioned White people ask people of color. Yet, it places the responsibility to educate on their peers, friends, colleagues, and even strangers, rather than themselves. If you've ever asked or been asked "What can I do to help combat racism?" then Dear White Women: Let's Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism is the answer you're looking for. From the creators of the award winning podcast Dear White Women, this book breaks down the psychology and barriers to meaningful race discussions for White people, contextualizing racism throughout American history in short, targeted chapters. Sara Blanchard and Misasha Suzuki Graham bring their insights to the page with: Personal narratives Historical context Practical tips Dear White Women challenges readers to encounter the hard questions about race (and racism) in order to push the needle of change in a positive direction. dearwhitewomen.com instagram.com/dearwhitewomenpodcast ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations

Money is emotional! Spenders, Savers, Planners... we each take a different approach to money. Money can define our self worth. If we're struggling financially, it can dominate our thoughts in other areas of life. Even when we have enough, it's easy to let our internal voices question "what is enough?" AJ Bishop joins us today to talk through our emotions around money and what she calls "wealth consciousness." AJ is the Founder of My Wealth Conscious Coach and spent over 15 years as an executive in the wealth management industry with JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo and MUFG Union Bank. She is passionate about helping women across the globe transform their financial lives and command their true WORTH in the workplace and the world. ******* AJ Bishop is a real talk financial leader, entrepreneur, stepmom and yoga teacher. A compelling and engaging communicator on the topics of wealth consciousness and money empowerment, AJ works with women-owned businesses and high-profile clients across the country, helping them develop mindful strategies that increase their financial confidence, protect their wealth and secure their financial legacies. She has been described as a “modern day Suze Orman meets Oprah.” She is dedicated to building a trusted, long-term relationship with her clients; helping them to achieve transformation through feminine leadership, financial education and deep community. hmywealthconsciouscoach.com https://www.instagram.com/mywealthconsciouscoach/ ******* The Third Place Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners into the hard conversations that we have a tendency to avoid. We “go there” on things such as… How anger is beautiful How to find presence amidst chaos How to have difficult conversations How to be an ally How to live with grief The Third Place is a safe place where curiosity is encouraged, differences are welcomed, and empathy is embraced through healthy dialogue. We've forgotten how to talk to each other… Life has become polarized and dualistic - you’re either with me or against me. To embrace the complex human experience is to see the world through other’s eyes. The Third Place podcast helps with the disconnect. This looks like less conflict and tension and more like a peaceful existence with others. The Third Place podcast restores the art of dialogue. For additional resources and if you're interested in supporting the work of The Third Place Podcast, check out our Patreon page. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-third-place/donations