On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss "bad trips". They talk about the difference between bad trips and challenging experiences; the factors during prep, facilitation, and integration that can prevent bad trips or turn them into useful challenging experiences; the prevalence of triggered psychosis and HPPD among psychedelic users; how to pick the right psychedelic therapist/guide/facilitator; and much more. (1:35) Are bad trips possible? (4:00) What is the difference between a bad trip vs a challenging experience? (7:00) How preparation affects the psychedelic experience (9:58) The importance of supportive community (14:05) What does informed consent in psychedelic-assisted therapy really mean? (16:00) How prevalent are challenging psychedelic experiences? (19:18) How the therapist/guide affects the psychedelic experience (24:28) Be discerning and take it slow (27:25) Emotional breakthrough, catharsis, and abreaction (36:32) The Happiness Hypothesis, by Jonathan Haidt (40:22) Understanding the psychodrama that can happen in a psychedelic experience (46:50) Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder (HPPD) and psychedelic flashbacks (51:01) Dream interpretation (55:14) How to integrate and make meaning of a psychedelic experience (59:23) After the Ecstasy, the Laundry, by Jack Kornfield (01:01:31) How to navigate a bad trip (01:10:07) Using "trip stoppers" like benzodiazepines Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison try to cope with the paradoxes of life. They give a trip report on a recent breathwork session, discuss why people struggle with paradoxes, explain how the drive to reduce cognitive dissonance can lead to dysfunction, explore how mindful acceptance of all that we are helps us cope with paradoxes, and much more. (1:35) Breathwork trip report (8:03) What are chakras? (11:04) 7 Sacred Spaces breathwork (11:15) What are paradoxes? (12:08) What is cognitive dissonance? (14:12) Shadow sides and shadow work (16:05) OCD vs OCPD (18:19) Never meet your heroes (22:14) Wave/Particle duality of nature (24:13) Being more of who you really are and finding your purpose (26:38) PTF Podcast Episode: Finding your purpose in life (29:50) Embrace the shadow aspects of yourself (34:50) Ram Dass and the smile of unbearable compassion (38:48) Learning to feel your emotions (41:00) Methods for coping with paradoxes (43:00) How psychedelics help us with paradoxes Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison are joined Hannah Cross, LCSW to discuss the non-therapy, non-medical uses of psychedelics. Hannah is a licensed clinical social worker, therapist, reiki master, yoga teacher, and all-around awesome person. (1:40) Intro to the topic and to Hannah (3:41) What does "processing" mean? (5:29) Discoveries and insights attributable to psychedelics (6:56) Timothy Leary's first LSD trip and cautionary tales (11:08) Psychedelics and psychological flexibility and creativity (14:38) Psychedelics for art and music (17:04) Microdosing, presence, and yoga (19:56) Psychedelics as a way-shower to a skill (21:38) Can psychedelics kill ambition? (24:18) Psychedelics for self-awareness and position in society (25:12) Turn on. Tune in. Drop out. (32:22) Psychedelic experiences can by destabilizing (36:52) What is equanimity? (44:42) Transpersonal psychology Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss the current legal status of psychedelic therapy in the US and other countries and the various challenges related to legalization and/or decriminalization of psychedelics. (1:50) Legalization vs decriminalization of psychedelics (3:30) The War on Drugs (6:37) Psychedelics Today Podcast episode with Kathryn L. Tucker, JD and the difference between federal and state legalization (8:06) Decriminalization in Denver (10:32) FDA approval and rescheduling psilocybin and MDMA (14:46) Psilocybin legalization in Oregon (18:21) Training requirements and expenses for facilitators (22:43) Fundamentals of Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy course at Numinus (23:00) The Oregon treatment structure (26:04) Psychedelic clinical trials (27:36) Arguments for state legalization ahead of FDA approval (32:29) Senate Bill 200 in Utah (45:53) Colorado Prop 122 (47:41) Australia legalizes psilocybin and MDMA for therapeutic use (49:12) Heroic Hearts Project Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss how to navigate a crisis of religious faith. (2:30) Why it's hard to talk about religious belief (5:10) The "nones" and the secularization of the West (8:52) What's at stake with a religious faith transition (13:57) The risk of your moral character being questioned (17:30) How to support a loved one who is going through a faith deconstruction (20:55) Thriving and Building Community After a Faith Crisis TEDx Talk (22:15) Mistrust of your own instincts and intuition (26:40) The importance of finding community (28:30) PTF Podcast: Navigating spiritual emergencies with Hannah Cross (30:49) Trauma and abuse within religious organizations (34:33) Psychedelic experiences of people deconstructing their religious faith (36:50) Beware of bitterness and how to grapple with it (41:08) Calibrating your life to your values (43:30) Allow uncertainty (47:41) Faith and surrender (49:45) Psychedelic tools for religious faith deconstruction (54:50) Navigating Mormon Faith Crisis, by Thomas McConkie Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss grit, resilience, and learning from failure. They explore the difference between growth and fixed mindsets, how attribution style affects resiliency, tips on how to reduce your fear of failure, and much more. (1:33) How Batman deals with failure (3:59) How our beliefs about failure affect how we cope with it (7:23) Explanatory/attribution styles and fixed vs growth mindsets (10:15) Mindset, by Carol Dweck (11:44) How to develop a growth mindset (16:38) How to expand your comfort zone (19:30) The dangers of comparing yourself to others (20:10) Outliers, by Malcom Gladwell (20:46) Peak, by Anders Ericsson and Robert Pool (21:42) There is power in sharing the vulnerability that is failure (24:20) Blame vs ownership and how leaders can model how to deal with failure (30:15) Tips on taking responsibility in relationships (34:26) How to manage anxiety about failing Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss authenticity. They talk about what it means to live one’s truth, the relationship between values and authenticity, what congruence has to do with it, why being authentic can be risky, and much more. (1:34) Les Miserables (4:28) What does it mean to be authentic? (6:46) Authenticity vs transparency, prosocial lies vs antisocial lies (9:58) Are Reid and Steve authentic on the podcast? (13:22) The components of authenticity (14:48) The fluidity of who you "really are" (16:00) Ram Dass and the channels of authenticity (22:30) Masking and being a tackless jerk (27:23) The potential perils of authenticity (32:56) Vulnerability is connecting and contagious (33:24) Authenticity exercise (39:43) Why don't we talk about religion and politics (42:08) Integrity (44:00) Psychedelics might help you be more flexible Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss parenting. They talk about how difficult parenting is, how parenting styles affect childhood and later adult attachment styles, being an emotion coach as a parent, how to raise resilient kids, genetics, and much more. (1:33) Parenting is hard (6:20) Spanking (7:00) Good Inside, by Dr. Becky Kennedy and being "home base" for your child (10:03) The value of consistency (11:55) Generational differences and improving on the parenting you received (14:02) Repairs and apologies (16:13) The Whole-Brain Child, by Dr. Dan Sielgel (16:52) How to help your kids feel seen (17:15) Raising an Emotionally Intelligent Child, by Dr. John Gottman (19:45) How to help your kids with their feelings (22:30) How to manage behavior and set boundaries (26:45) Helicopter parenting (27:15) Duct Tape Parenting, by Vicki Hoefle (33:50) Genetic: parents matter, but they don't make a difference (40:30) Unconditional positive regard (43:32) Re-parenting your inner child (49:03) Divorce, separation, and co-parenting Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss the many facets of love. They explore what love is, how it’s extended and received, the concept of unconditional positive regard, why it’s so important to feel seen and understood, the role feelings of love play in psychedelic medicine…and much more. (1:22) The core need of being seen (3:29) Unconditional positive regard and Carl Rogers (4:58) The first duty of love is to listen (7:11) Love in parenting (9:31) Validate before reassuring or fixing (10:48) Love means a lot of different things (11:45) Self-love and why it's hard to do (15:29) A Return to Love, by Marianne Williamson (16:33) The 5 love languages (17:40) Enlightenment and love (20:28) How to Change Your Mind, by Michael Pollan (22:37) Experiences of love on psychedelics (24:05) Sit Around The Fire, by Jon Hopkins with Ram Dass, East Forest (27:10) Oneness, connectedness, and common humanity Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer, Dr. Reid Robison, and Dr. Joe Flanders welcome clinical psychologist, clinical trial researcher, and psychedelic therapist, Dr. Chantelle Thomas to the show for an important conversation about the shadow side of psychedelic therapy. They discuss how therapists harm their clients, the high bar of competence and self-awareness that psychedelic therapists need to clear in order to do this work, the limitations and potential pitfalls of psychedelic therapy training programs, the importance of good supervision and being open to feedback, the dangers of seeking psychedelic sessions in the unregulated underground, and much more. (1:45) Introduction to the topic (3:53) Chantelle introduces herself (8:13) Grappling with how our imperfections affect our clients (11:18) Honoring the boundary-dissolving effects of psychedelics (14:50) Examples of how people are harmed in psychedelic work (18:55) Regulated vs underground psychedelic medicine spaces (20:42) When deep connection puts people at risk (22:46) The importance of good supervision, experience, and training (31:55) Informed consent in psychedelic therapy (36:05) Barriers to clients asking for what they need (42:10) How to manage the heavy weight of influence (45:23) Process-based dialogue, following intuition, and how to train these skills (58:05) You don't have to be perfect (01:03:05) MAPS Code of Ethics (01:06:10) The utility of having a co-therapist (01:17:06) The inner directed approach and the inner healer (01:20:30) Low dose psychedelic work and meeting people where they are (01:24:50) Follow your gut when selecting a psychedelic practitioner (01:27:55) Not all medicines are right for all people (01:30:20) How to select a psychedelic training program (01:33:44) Understand your intentions for entering this field Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss setting intentions for the new year. They explore how to set values-based intentions vs goals, the struggle of walking the middle path between ambition and contentment, the value of journaling, and much more. (2:00) New Year's resolutions and how our values change (3:41) Essentialism by Greg McKeown and setting an essential intent for the year (4:57) The backlash against "hustle culture" and balancing on the middle way (9:12) Discipline, self-compassion, and play (12:00) Giving yourself "permission" to relax (14:30) Being flexible with your goals and calibrating them to your values (19:10) Embracing making mistakes (24:18) Visualizing failure and dealing with worry (26:43) The three "E's" of goal-setting (29:30) Connect your goals to your deep "why", be clear, be focussed (33:10) The utility of writing and journaling for goal-setting (40:05) Development, embarrassment, self-compassion, and being vs doing Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss what you need to know about ketamine-assisted psychotherapy. (1:43) Ram Dass's family dinner (4:27) What is ketamine? (7:05) What does ketamine feel like? (11:29) Ketamine as a psychotomimetic (12:53) Ego dissociation as a therapy (14:54) The limitations of ketamine therapy (16:00) The different approaches to ketamine therapy (23:10) Ketamine dosing strategies (27:05) Psychedelic, psycholytic, and psychiatric uses of ketamine (28:30) The advantages of combining ketamine and psychotherapy (33:17) Typical course of ketamine treatment (37:20) Spravato and the cost of ketamine treatment (40:45) Ketamine prescriptions for at-home use Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Joe Flanders interviews Dr. Anthony Back, M.D. Dr. Back is a co-founder of VitalTalk, a national nonprofit that provides innovative, interactive clinician and faculty development courses to improve communication skills on an individual and institutional level. Dr. Back is a professor of medicine at the University of Washington in Seattle, and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Dr. Back earned his MD at Harvard University. He is triple-board certified in hospice and palliative medicine, medical oncology, and general internal medicine. In his role as a medical communication educator and a VitalTalk co-founder, Dr. Back was the principal investigator for Oncotalk, co-wrote Mastering Communication with Seriously Ill Patients, released the first iPhone app for clinician communication skills, and authored the online communication skills curriculum offered by the Center to Advance Palliative Care. (3:00) Dr. Back introduces himself (6:55) What is palliative care? (9:06) Improving quality of life and having a good death (15:30) The applications of psychedelics for end-of-life care (17:35) Dr. Back's article, "What psilocybin taught me about dying" (21:00) Materialist vs spiritualist views of life and death (29:14) Roland Griffiths' cancer diagnosis (34:07) Gratitude for cancer (38:22) How psychedelics might help people at end-of-life (55:23) Randomized trial of psilocybin for health care practitioners with depression (01:01:07) How do you train a health care practitioner in good palliative care? (01:07:51) How do we scale psychedelic-assisted therapy? Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss the power of belief, the placebo effect, manifesting and the law of attraction, and how these things are relevant for psychedelic-assisted therapy and life. (0:52) Childhood fears and scary movies (4:00) The conflict between rational thought and felt sense (5:08) Why do people believe what they believe? (7:22) How beliefs are related to mental illness (9:45) Cognitive biases and the scientific method (13:45) Evolutionary basis of beliefs (16:36) The placebo effect (27:30) Manifesting and the law of attraction (35:20) Eastern wisdom about our relationship to thoughts and beliefs (38:11) How beliefs affect psychedelic-assisted therapy Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss the paradox of control and surrender in psychedelic assisted therapy and in life. (1:45) A poem about control vs surrender written by an AI chat bot (4:24) The Serenity Prayer (5:50) Avoidance and our attachments to control are at the root of many types of suffering (9:29) Allowing and the wisdom to know when to stop (13:29) Radical Acceptance, by Tara Brach (14:19) Acceptance, the comfort zone, and struggle (17:41) Ceremony as a way to sacarementalize discomfort (20:03) The safety of the therapy container allows clients to let go (22:32) REBUS and how we change our neurological wiring (24:45) Why some people might feel worse after a psychedelic experience (26:19) How one might cultivate equanimity (27:10) What does it mean to surrender to emotions? (32:45) What we resist, persists. (34:47) Don't deny the reality of others. (37:55) Attachment to beliefs can make surrender difficult (40:00) How to cultivate equanimity Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Joe Flanders interviews Saj Razvi. Saj is the Director of Education at the Psychedelic Somatic Institute (PSI) and one of the primary developers of the Psychedelic Somatic Interactional Psychotherapy (PSIP) modality. He is a psychotherapist and former clinical researcher in the MAPS Phase 2 trial of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy. He is faculty at Mind Medicine Australia and taught PTSD studies at the University of Denver. Learn more about Saj on the PSI website. (3:52) Saj's background (6:50) The power of cannabis to help with the psychotherapy process (9:00) Psychedelic therapy is complex and an art form (13:25) The trauma roots of treatment-resistant mental health conditions (15:39) PSIP vs insight-oriented therapies (24:18) Psychedelics and working at the somatic level (27:55) White paper on PSIP (29:24) The default mod network and entropic brain (36:38) How the nervous system self-corrects the effects of trauma through a 5-stage defense cascade (53:30) Avoidance and shame (57:30) Selective inhibition (01:08:44) Inside and outside the window of tolerance (01:12:20) Working with trauma is about relationship/attachment (01:16:45) Joe's experience with PSIP (01:26:25) Adaptive vs maladaptive responses to stress (01:36:00) Cannabis and working with dissociation in trauma therapy (01:43:35) "Cracking open" stuckness in psychedelic therapy (01:46:20) Cannabis vs ketamine Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss how to set healthy boundaries so your relationships can be energizing and your mental health can flourish. (2:00) Boundaries are important in many facets of life (4:00) Our basic need for belonging (4:40) Transcend, by Scott Barry Kaufman (7:21) Don't take on what isn't yours (10:25) Setting boundaries isn't the same as selfishness (13:55) Boundaries allow you to be generous (15:51) The challenges of changing your boundaries (21:08) Types of boundaries (22:55) Borderline personality disorder (24:27) Vulnerability, intimacy, and safety (30:40) Touch boundaries in psychedelic therapy sessions (32:38) Cognitive and affective empathy (33:04) Validate and listen first (42:25) Setting boundaries around your time (44:38) Let me Google that for you (45:00) Integrity boundary check exercise (47:02) Energies, vibrations, quantum physics, and the nature of consciousness (53:17) Recommended books: Talking to Crazy, Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents, Children of the Self-Absorbed, Never Split the Difference, Boundaries, No More Mr. Nice Guy, Co-dependent No More. Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss self-care strategies for the psychedelic therapist. (1:30) Self-care vs self-indulgence (3:02) Why is self-care a necessity for therapists (6:05) The therapist is an important part of the setting (8:45) Managing the long sessions typical of psychedelic therapy sessions (11:40) How much of this work can a therapist handle? (13:18) Staying attuned when the client is still and quiet (15:00) Modeling good self-care for clients (17:45) Logistical support for the psychedelic therapist (19:19) What Reid and Steve do for self-care (23:50) Signs that you need to improve self-care (26:26) PTF episode on burnout (30:32) Balance between cutting slack and self-discipline (33:22) How to care for yourself during a long psychedelic session (35:30) Get supervision Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

On this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer, Dr. Reid Robison, and Dr. Joe Flanders discuss the healing power of music. They share their personal journeys with and connections to music, childhood piano lessons, the powerful effect music has on emotion, how they use music in psychedelic therapy, and much, much more. (1:55) Reid's music journey (4:00) Steve's music journey (7:05) Joe's music journey (10:00) Why we pair music with psychedelic therapy (13:52) What kind of music pairs well with psychedelic therapy (16:20) East Forest and Trevor Hall concerts (18:53) Fitting the music to the particular psychedelic medicine and Joe's interview with Jon Hopkins (21:35) Wavepaths: music for psychedelic therapy (28:43) Dose matters (30:56) Connecting to the musician by feeling their music (36:16) Bittersweet: How Sorrow And Longing Make Us Whole, by Susan Cain (43:33) The arc of order and chaos in music and psychedelic therapy (46:00) Steve's gong encounter (47:20) How the Beatles were introduced to LSD Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers Podcast, Dr. Joe Flanders interviews musician & producer, Jon Hopkins. Jon has been producing music for over 20 years. He's written six studio albums and has produced albums for Coldplay & Brian Eno. His album Singularity received a Grammy nomination for best electronic dance album in 2018. His latest album, Music for Psychedelic Therapy, was written as a soundtrack for ketamine experiences. Joe and Jon discuss Jon's motivation to write the album, as well as his meditation practice, the role of music in psychedelic therapy, and the Ram Dass lecture that formed lyrics to the album’s powerful closing track. Jon also shares how ketamine played a role creating the Music for Psychedelic Therapy album. (2:50) Jon's process for making the album, Music for Psychedelic Therapy (7:05) The importance of music in psychedelic therapy (10:10) How new technologies help artists create immersive music (12:00) Wavepaths: music for psychedelic therapy (17:18) What was Jon processing personally while making this album? (22:40) What is healing about the beauty of being in touch with sadness? (29:23) Joe's ketamine experience with Jon's album and how Jon used his own ketamine experiences to compose the album (42:26) The song, Sitting Around the Fire, and using music with lyrics for psychedelic therapy (52:44) The drawbacks of smartphone use and push notifications (01:00:00) The music as medicine concert series and how it's different Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/ Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/ Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinus.com/training/ Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/ https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/ https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/ https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/