On today’s episode of the podcast series, we’re joined by RMB’s Head of Telecommunication, Media & Technology Advisory, Arun Varughese. There is so much happening in the payments landscape, and not many people are aware of the plumbing that exists behind contactless payments. It may happen in mere seconds, but is actually a very complex web of electronic communication both locally and internationally. Cash is still dominant in Africa and South Africa; 60% of payments are made using physical cash, so the market for card payments and alternative fintechs is massive. The proliferation of smartphones using digital wallet services such as Apple Pay, has enabled consumers to pay for things in a much more convenient manner. Around the world there are payment options such as WeChat, Alipay, PayPal and ever-growing cryptocurrency solutions. With all this innovation and change occurring, there is a trend of moving towards financial inclusion for most of the planet, and the move away from cash is really going to be driving it. Data is now very much at the fore; within banks there’s a lot of analysis of consumer behaviour, such as where you swiped your card, what you purchased, how often you shop etc. When you tie that up with things such as location data, even from an economic and aggregate perspective, you can see with real-time data which direction the economy is moving. A new development on South African shores is ‘Buy Now Pay Later’ – a method of payment that’s a direct replacement for credit cards, where everyone benefits – the fintech, the consumer, and the merchant. This system allows one to borrow money on an interest-free basis over a period of time, where you can opt to pay it back in equal installments over a 4-8 week period. It’s a very real threat to traditional banking where interest is made on credit cards and fees. It’s a closed-loop system – the data is extremely valuable; fintechs can build up a much clearer picture of their customers, allowing them to target better products and services. From an advisory perspective, Arun’s role is to consult players in the value chain on a variety of choices, particularly around capital and how to expand their businesses. As a bank, RMB hopes to grow with their clients in this increasingly active space. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode of the podcast series, we are joined by Chris Steyn, Shoprite Technology’s Head of Data Analytics. Serving over 24 million customers in nearly 3 000 stores, with in excess of 25 000 points of sale and 100 000 articles moving through these points, data presents very exciting opportunities for the Shoprite Group and the chance to execute their strategy of becoming smarter. From a data analytics perspective, Chris believes a focus on customer-centricity and the enablement of precision retailing is essential. Customers need to have a rewarding experience when they interact — is the product available, is the quality of the highest standard, is the pricing correct and the in-store experience enjoyable? With precision retailing, it’s all about infusing more science into the decision-making process such as inventory control, wastage and shrinkage, quality control on fresh produce etc. With so many moving parts, there are many opportunities to mine different data assets that currently exist within the organisation. In order for data to be collected and made useable, many years have been spent on standardising the data pipelines to ensure they are complete, timeous and of a high quality. This led to a data bulk architecture with different channels, exposing more data assets to more of the organisation. ShopriteX is a new digital innovation unit that aims to marry data science, technology and talent with customer-focus at its core; consolidating all the business entities with an emphasis on commerce, rewards, and personalisation. The focus for retail is the evolution of customers from single to multi-channel and how this activity is tracked and monitored. Location analysis, the introduction of augmented reality in different forms, and the concept of customer offer engines are very important. The old systems targeted the masses, whereas now it’s all about tailoring to the individual customer needs and desires. Shoprite continues to invest more in outside intelligence, and favours an ecosystem where exploration, ideation, research and experimentation is encouraged. They have a saying – productionise your curiosity; create a workforce that is challenging every single norm that exists within the current landscape. For organisations going forward, Chris feels it’s all about investment in human talent and potential and creating an environment where people can be informed, educated and inspired. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Patrice Rassou, Ashburton Investments’ CIO joins us on this episode of the podcast series. The investment industry is very familiar with the processing and extraction of data in order to make investment decisions. A few decades back this was largely a manual process; now data is available in a digital format with quite a lot of history, allowing for spreadsheets to be built rapidly. There are also alternative sources of data available to triangulate forecasts with what industry experts are saying, thereby improving the quality of these forecasts and also the quality of valuations. There’s a lot of raw data available, but the real issue is how easy or difficult it is to arrange and process that data in order to be able to extract signals, and how useful these are from a predictive viewpoint. To explore these signals in financial markets, Patrice believes you need to see whether there are relationships that you can observe, and are these persistent and significant enough to make money out of. The volume of data, which is into the billions, really shows that there is a vast field to mine of both structured and unstructured data which requires a lot of computing power to handle the frequency and velocity. The key focus in financial markets now is getting the signals out of this noise. The differentiating factor is making sense of the relationships, and ensuring the data will have a lasting impact that can be explored long-term. What is alternative data? Instead of using traditional financial information, there has been a whole industry that has sprung up with a swathe of available data. Some examples are satellite imagery that gives data on mobility, traffic outside of shopping malls, ships piling up outside of ports, trucks coming in and out of factories and so forth. There are also social media indicators allowing you to pick up whether your average person is feeling more bullish or more bearish; what their type of buying habits are, what interests them in terms of financial markets chatter, etc. Alternative data used to be quite costly to collect and difficult to integrate, where increasingly there are providers who supply these alternative sources of data, sometimes to the highest bidder to avoid overcrowding. The world of financial analysis has really evolved from being one driven by humans, to having machines and very sophisticated quantity processes able to handle and analyse huge amounts of data and deliver returns; one Patrice feels is a race between man and machine. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joining us today on this episode of the podcast series is Mike Grant - Chief Technical Officer at DataProphet, engineer and machine learning specialist. DataProphet is not a dashboarding company. There’s no added value outside of a beautiful looking dashboard where you have to take your production team to look at the dashboard; interpret the graphics and end up having 2 different people looking at the same graph and coming to 2 different conclusions. AI takes out that interpretation component and analyses the data a bit further to a point of action; formulating a plan as to what you should do next. A manufacturing line is a super complicated amalgamation of machines; you do something upstream and it can affect the next process. It’s very hard to say — ‘make this small correction here because you don’t yet have a problem, but if you don’t fix it, you’re going to have a very costly mistake’. It’s that guidance that really affects bottom-line profitability — if you can get it right, you can transform the manufacturing company into something that is hyper competitive. Mike believes to undertake the AI journey, you need to start with a value proposition; make sure that whatever comes out of the AI system has a tangible ROI. This means operating at a price point where it’s affordable to the manufacturing firm, and the value it adds to the business warrants the expenditure. For example, if scrap is reduced by 40%, what does that mean to my bottom line? Among other things, it means an immediate cost improvement, additional production capacity, lower energy consumption and less CO² emissions. When it comes to having enough data, you don’t need an historical record. It’s like the saying — ‘The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago; the next best time to plant a tree is now’. So, if you don’t have it, just start collecting it. As far as the concern around AI replacing jobs, Mike feels this isn’t the case at all. There’s a massive absence of ‘experts’ around the world, so implementing AI is actually creating this input to drive a production system – upskilling existing machine operators to perform better. At the end of the day, it’s effectively going to augment our current processes and make businesses more competitive on the global stage.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On today’s episode of the podcast series, we’re joined by Property Economist for FNB, John Loos who believes that data analytics in the property industry is of vital importance. Having been in the industry for 20 years, he has seen firsthand how limited data back then led to billions of Rands worth of losses due to banks not fully understanding the housing boom. There was only house price data, no housing market data, which meant it was a speculative market with very little information on what was actually happening. All these things lead to a very high-risk environment for banks. If another housing boom took place today, banks would be inside the mind of the market and the dynamics much better than they were back then. John feels offensive analytics is not used as much as it should be on the banking side of things. When it comes to housing bubbles, such as in the US at the moment, there’s plenty of data but not enough buyer or seller education, meaning buyer panic still sets in. Data has taken us so far, but he believes it needs to be used more and be used to educate. More and more diverse data sets are being collected regarding properties and valuations and different metrics; we ask if this as a property economist has made it easier or more difficult to find the signal in all the data noise. The answer is definitely easier. The insights available now compared with 20 years ago are phenomenal. One example was managing to identify that the Namibian market was overheated using the methodologies that had been built up for South Africa. Do you think AI will become more prominent in the property industry, specifically in banking and asset management, or do you think there will always need to be a human touch? Where there have been mistakes in the past, and there will be big mistakes again, is that machines or models must give you 100% of the answer. What was always drummed into John from early on is that machines/models are there to help you make the decision. If you allow them to actually make the decision, you’re going to get yourself into trouble; as a rule of thumb there should always be humans behind the scenes applying their minds. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chief Data Analytics Officer for FirstRand Risk, Dr Mark Nasila, joins us on this episode of the podcast series to discuss the meaning of Artificial Intelligence and its role in the financial industry. Emerging technologies combined with social challenges across the world, has meant that every industry has had to reimagine itself.  Banking has had to resort to remote ways of working, scale up digital channels and implement flexible terms for customers in order to keep them interested in using their products and services. One of the key technologies driving this is AI, and the banking industry had invested almost $12-billion by 2021 to address these challenges head on. Digitisation is becoming an expectation, and Mark outlines just some of the exciting use cases he has seen in the financial services space. The digital experience starts at onboarding, and one example of this is Uber which has been integrated into many financial systems to be able to onboard customers even if they are not banked. In the Risk space, machine learning algorithms are much better suited to processing a lot of information, providing the right focus to make accurate decisions as opposed to traditional ways of judgmental credit. This has been scaled in areas such as Fraud so that not too much time is spent using a blanket approach. Another area is Risk decisioning; analysts spend so much time going through customer details, so AI is enhancing the due diligence process. The future of payments is being reimagined, for example using facial recognition systems instead of cards in supermarkets that link to customer portfolios. Quantum computing in security is better at encrypting data and can therefore identify anomalies that may indicate the presence of cyber-crime. And so the list goes on. Mark believes it’s very important for organisations to educate on the role of AI and also the implications of adopting it. There’s much talk about AI taking the place of people’s jobs, but in fact, if implemented correctly it can drive productivity and allow us as human beings to focus on human functions which we are much better suited for. Strategies are also important in articulating where AI should be used and how it can be used productively. Governance is key to ensuring the correct use of AI, safeguarding privacy and protecting the continued value of humanity. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In today’s episode of the podcast series, we are joined by FNB’s Chief Risk Officer, Lytania Johnson. Data is a key component in the risk landscape, from basic risk assessment to new technologies such as AI and machine learning. Risk is considered from two angles – how to use data and analytics to inform better risk management, and the business of risk – making sure that the risk function itself becomes future-enabled to achieve efficiency. In a retail and commercial bank such as FNB, credit risk is of utmost importance. Data is well entrenched in the retail business where it is used to build appropriate scorecards to identify the right customers at the right affordability level. In the lower end of the commercial segment, data is used to drive scorecard development for customers, and in an environment with turnovers of up to R60 million, is key to decision making. Covid-19 highlighted the importance of using broader data points to understand the risk of your customers. The various levels of lockdown identified a key data point that is often underestimated – industry risk. In the FNB environment, you can link a retail customer to an entity that they operate in, bringing together the commercial data and retail credit data to understand income risk volatility. An opportunity has also been identified where data and analytics can be used to make risk processes more efficient, and secondly, if AI and machine learning can be used to connect the data insights and develop client desirability synopsis forms, this frees up your risk professionals to do the judgmental work and assess the outcome. What about global trends such as ESG and financial crime? Data and analytics can definitely play a part in informing financial crime in the broader sense. This is not just about anti-money laundering, it’s about truly understanding a client and their financial activity within the bank. Data can also be used to see where there are opportunities to support customers who wish to transition into climate-friendly industries and to provide products and solutions that align with what you want to achieve in terms of climate risk management. Looking ahead, Lytania believes that the nature of a risk professional is going to change and will require a better overall understanding of data literacy. She also feels it is important to realise that the risk profile is going to evolve, and the risk function itself will call for a lot more platform-based risk management thinking, with data analytics at the very core of it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode we are joined by Chief Data and Analytics Officer at FirstRand, Christoph Nieuwoudt. The Group has an extraordinary amount of in-depth insights and data available that clients wouldn’t have access to anywhere else. Whether you’re serving a customer from a transactional point of view or doing investment banking deals for customers from a credit point of view, Christoph feels that they should now be able to ask customers a lot less questions, and instead give them valuable insights into their business. From retailers to any consumer-facing organisation, he believes that even big tech brands don’t have the kind of in-depth understanding of customer profiles that the Group has readily available. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

n this episode we are joined by Chief Data and Analytics Officer at FNB Ryan Prozesky, who believes that data is the new currency — key in every organisation and used to inform almost every business decision. Data allows you to make your solutions more relevant and improve your customer experience. You can tailor the interaction and experience to be very specific and efficient, and the more data you have, the less questions need to be asked. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joanne is Head of Data Analytics at Omnia Group and joins us in this episode to discuss data in the chemical manufacturing space. Joanne has been with Omnia for a number of years and has experience at all levels of the organisation from manufacturing, lab work, field trials and supply chain to finance and sales. This has allowed her to see things from a Managing Director point of view where she can ask herself – if this is the challenge I am facing, what type of answer am I actually looking for? Being able to anticipate questions and narrow down the scope of projects allows her to nail the reporting faster and produce the correct data models. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode we are joined by RMB CFO Jaco Van Wyk and FNB CFO Markos Daviasto explore data in finance. Finance skillsets are evolving, and the Chartered Accountants of the past need to understand some of the core data analytics skillsets going into the future, to get an edge and get ahead in the race. Data architecture is critical, and something that finance departments are not very adept at, instead throwing lots of people into the mix to find solutions in a structured manner for regulations and accounting standards etc. But what is really required is for the flow of data to be managed more thoroughly through systems and processes, allowing many more resources to have access to it. Unstructured data needs to be invested in more, and finance needs to start bridging the gap to yield the benefits, particularly if it can be augmented with client and business data to geta holistic picture of customers. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As Head of the Banking Division and Investment Bank at RMB, Emrie believes that data analytics is an opportunity to engage with their clients, become their trusted advisers and offer them a different perspective on their business. RMB clients should see data analytics as a unique offering to them and something that’s not available to all corporates. It can allow them to get a better understanding of their industries and through this engagement RMB can also unlock new business opportunities, making it a win-win situation for both parties. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Head of Data Solutions at Medscheme Vukosi Sambo, joins us on this episode of the podcast series. The South African healthcare space has ever-increasing costs and high unaffordability where it outplays inflation and wages year-on-year. Only 8-million out of 59-million people are on medical aid, putting an immense burden on the state in terms of providing for the rest of the population. It is critical to contain this unsustainable situation of rising costs that is leading to unattainable private healthcare in Southern Africa. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s been a very challenging time for Jannie over the past few months as Group General Manager of Data Science and Information Management at Mediclinic. Covid-19 has accelerated the way data is used and everything has become increasingly real-time. Businesses want to know based on what happened yesterday, what’s going to happen tomorrow. There is a big challenge to keep up the pace and generate the correct insights to keep up with business demand. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. Read more: https://www.rmb.co.za/page/data-in-healthcare-brings-hope-for-the-future See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As Head of Asset Management for the Retail Division at Attacq, Michael has had to face many disruptions over the last six months with regards to his large property portfolio, with the crown jewel being Mall of Africa. As with all retailers, all properties had to be prepared for lockdown, from being hygienically compliant to deciding who will be able to trade and who won’t. As the lockdown levels were adjusted, so too were the restrictions that had to be adhered to. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. Read more: https://www.rmb.co.za/page/data-analytics-no-longer-a-hard-sell-for-retail See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ettienne, Chief Economist at RMB considers himself a macroeconomist, someone that needs to know some things about a lot of things. Economics is essentially a social science with 2 sub-fields — microeconomics and macroeconomics. In short, microeconomics deals with detail, the nitty gritty so to speak. This can include price theory, what determines the cost of a product, determining the wage of particular workers, to name a few. Macroeconomics on the other hand is the big picture. Topics such as the global economy, international trade, inflation and public finance. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. Read more: https://www.rmb.co.za/page/in-the-midst-of-economists See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode we are joined by Jessica Spira, Sector Head of Healthcare and Hospitality at RMB. Jessica has been in the bank for almost 20 years and has seen first-hand the monumental shift in the use of data. This has been made possible by establishing the correct systems and processes, allowing the Group to change the way in which they approach their clients — having this data at their disposal enables them to add proper value across the board. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. Read more: https://www.rmb.co.za/page/positive-shifts-in-healthcare-and-hospitality See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Data analytics has taken a long journey in banking. As RMB CEO James Formby explains, having data is one thing, but knowing what to do with it and enabling useful insights is another. Historically, data was housed in different departments making it difficult to bridge the gap, but as technology and architecture has advanced, data can be put together in a way that makes it far more seamless and far more accessible, allowing for a great deal of value unlock in terms of the new data models available. As markets evolve, it’s important for C-suite executives to understand the power of data and how to use it to make those all-important decisions. Please enjoy the conversation and subscribe for more. Read more: https://www.rmb.co.za/page/the-key-to-decision-making See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.