Last week, we interviewed Sam Altman. Since then, well, everything has changed. The board of OpenAI, maker of ChatGPT, fired Altman as chief executive on Friday. Over the weekend, it looked as if he might return. On Sunday night, Microsoft hired Altman to lead a new A.I. venture. Who knows what will happen next.

Today, an update on a crazy weekend in tech, and our interview with Sam Altman.

Today’s Guest:

Sam Altman is the former chief executive of OpenAI.

Additional Reading:

On Sunday, Microsoft hired Sam Altman after OpenAI had fired him.
Kevin breaks down the winners and losers from the OpenAI rift.

Mayhem at OpenAI + Our Interview With Sam Altman

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“Hard Fork” is a show about the future that’s already here. Each week, journalists Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore and make sense of the latest in the rapidly changing world of tech. 

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Mayhem at OpenAI + Our Interview With Sam Altman

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