Lauren & Chan are back for an emergency episode diving deep into the 10 year situationship between Taylor Swift and Matty Healy. But first, the gals discuss their evolving appreciation for THE TORTURED POET'S DEPARTMENT. Lauren specifically returns to the chat with an even mightier change of heart and newfound appreciation for both the title track, Down Bad, and My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys. Then, the sisters tackle the ten year situationship between the volatile The 1975 frontman and the American icon, Taylor Swift. They discuss everything from the rumored beginnings of the relationship in 2014 up until the the smallest man who ever lived ghosted their treasured Taylor. Listen along for the full scoop on Taylor and Matty on this EMERGENCY DEEP DIVE ❤️‍🔥 Taylor Swift & Matty Healy 💔 EVERYTHING WE KNOW. BUCKLE IN. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan sit down with Taylor Swift expert and listener favorite, Joe Peacock, to deep dive the 11th studio by their blonde redeemer, Taylor Allison Swift. The trio discuss the journeys each has been on contending with the unexpected sonic experience of TTPD. Listen along as Lauren, Chan, and Joe get into the Matty Healy, Joe Alwyn, and Kim Kardashian of it all as they wade through the often stormy waters on Taylor’s tortured seas.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan have their hearts warmed by the Taylor + Travis Coachella content, and they chat about the couple’s festival security situation and Taylor’s normie girl moment. In preparation for TTPD, Lauren has Joe Alwyn on the brain and is ready to dissect Taylor’s lyrics that tell everyone what Joe really is like. The gals switch over to another tortured poet with Gerry the Golden Bachelor and dive into what could have been so wrong that he and Theresa would split after just three months of marriage. They then move on to listener relationship questions and feature a Pop Apologist Golden Moment from their Dating Red Flags episode.  Lauren and Chan answer questions about: -What to do when your longterm boyfriend gets upset when you ask about a proposal -Whether you should give a guy another chance after he ghosted you a year ago -What you should do when your super hot ex joins the Illuminati(!!) for fame -Whether you should date a man who’s morals don’t align with yours, but makes a ton of money -How to handle a marriage where you and your spouse disagree over big things -Whether you should move in with your boyfriend before getting engaged -How to cope when the person you are having an affair with dies -What to do if you don’t have instant chemistry with the person you are dating -What to do when you and your partner have different levels of desire -How to cope when your partner cheats -How to get your boyfriend to be more romantic in your relationship  -What to do when your crush is in a bad relationship with someone else? Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the gals chat about Chanler’s experience chasing the solar eclipse and a recent psychic reading Lauren had done that she hoped would lead to further information about Kate Middleton. They then dive into Morgan Wallen’s love sick chair-throwing episode that landed him in the slammer over the weekend. Chanler leads us through the accusations of Rebel Wilson against Sacha Baron Cohen and finally, the gals revisit the concept of children forced to protest on behalf of their activist parents. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan chat about the emergence of new AI robots hitting the scene, which AI practices the gals cannot get on board with, and why AI may end up  helping them achieve their dreams of living their best Ballerina Farm lives. They dive into the New York Post article that discussed why women love dad bods, specifically putting Travis Kelce into the dad bod category. Lauren and Chan take a look at the different physical standards that exist for men vs. women and why they are loving the photos they have recently seen of Taylor Swift on vacation with Travis Kelce. The gals take a look at the lawsuit between former RHOC couple Shannon Beador and John Janssen, in which John is suing Shannon for $75,000. Finally, Lauren and Chan introduce a new segment, Pop Apologists Golden Moment, where they share some of the best stories from early episodes of the podcast.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chanler are joined by Kate Casey to unpack the new MAX series, “Quiet on Set.” But first, the blonde trio debrief on Kate Middleton and get Kate’s expert opinion on where exactly Kensington Palace failed their princess in their PR fumbling of the century. The gals also touch on very troubling news re: Gerry the Golden Bachelor and Theresa Nist before diving into the disturbing docu-series that has everyone glued to their screens in horror. Listen along as Lauren, Chanler, and Kate discuss the toxic work environment on Dan Schneider's hit Nickelodeon children's tv show sets, including "The Amanda Show" and "All That." The gals discuss the humiliations and sexual assaults the cast and crew on these shows endured and question the moral murkiness of child stardom in today's world. Buckle in...listener discretion is advised. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chanler sit down to discuss the raid of P. Diddy’s homes in Los Angeles, NYC, and Miami as federal authorities search of evidence of the rapper’s crimes. The gals discuss his misdeeds up until this point and the current accusations against him by his former producer, Rodney ‘Lil Rod’ Jones. After detailing these unsavory allegations, Lauren and Chan move onto decidedly lighter subject matter and discuss the new photos of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift on vacation in the Bahamas. The girls also share their joy at the news that Meghan Markle is launching a lifestyle brand, “American Riviera Orchard.” They chat the merits of this name, brand names they believe hit the cutting room floor, and what they are excited to see from the duchess’s forthcoming luxury empire. Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the new developments in the Ruby Franke case. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chanler sit down to discuss the tragic announcement that Kate made via video statement on Friday to the world. They give their full thoughts on the video statement, including how they now feel about their "Where TF is Kate" series given the news. The gals discuss the timing of the announcement, whether the royal family can be trusted, and why this conversation matters more than every at a time when faith in institutions is at an all-time low. They also get into the mysterious death of the Boeing whistleblower, a man who died just as he was supplying information in court about alleged negligence in one of the largest aviation companies in the world. Finally, Lauren and Chan debrief on Ariana finally moving out of the house she and Tom Sandoval shared. Buckle in! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chanler sit down with heavy hearts to describe to week that has transpired. Originally chasing wild tales with everyone else online, they find themselves with a newfound sense of nausea as they ponder whether it’s truly possible that something is horribly wrong with Kate Middleton, and this isn’t just the internet being the internet and going down wild rabbit holes. Listen along as the girls share everything they have heard about what is going on with Kate, from trusted sources to random DM’s from total strangers. Lauren and Chan present a cohesive narrative of what they are told is going on behind the scenes, their hope for was is happening (spoiler alert: a woman on the mend from an early 40’s facelift). Buckle tf in, though, bc unfortunately all evidence seems to point to something much more sinister. 😭 A note from Lauren and Chan: “WE PRAY NONE OF THIS IS TRUE!” To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are together to discuss the saga that has gripped the globe— WHERE THE FUCK IS KATE MIDDLETON?! Join the gals as they explore all the theories on what is actually going on and why Kate has been out of view since December 25, 2023. They take a close look at the entire timeline of events to try and uncover what the Palace could be hiding and why there have been no real Kate sightings. Lauren and Chan examine what all of this could mean for the future of the monarchy amid the PR nightmare and rapidly eroding public trust. Finally, the gals dive into the deeper, darker theories that are too shocking to be discussed on social media. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are ready with a deep dive on Anne Hathaway, including their personal psychological evaluation as to why Anne seems to provoke so many feelings of consternation and ire among the public. Despite starring in a slew of beloved movies, hosting the Oscars in 2012, and winning the Oscar for best supporting actress in 2013, there was a growing amount of backlash against Anne. The gals take a closer look at why many members of the public have strong negative feelings about Anne, discuss whether they believe these feelings are warranted, or if the public needs to give Anne a break. Hear all about Anne’s high profile romance with Raffaello Follieri, a fraudster who was sentenced to 4 years in prison following an FBI investigation immediately following their relationship. Finally, buckle in as Lauren and Chan deliver their verdict on whether they are pro-Anne Hathaway or if the Hathahate has any merit.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan chat about Kate Middleton’s whereabouts and the theories about her extended medical leave from her royal duties. The gals discuss the frigid British royal family and why they are in favor of Meghan Markle going against the royal family’s cold ways. In Bravo news, they break down Jax and Brittany’s recent breakup announcement and why they aren’t buying it, as well as some mixed feelings about Lala Kent’s recent pregnancy announcement. Lauren and Chan dive into Kristin Cavallari’s hard launch with 24 year old TikTok creator Mark Estes and why this looks more cringe than the crumbling of the patriarchy. The gals chat all about the latest Cyrus family drama, which includes some startling revelations about mother and daughter Tish and Noah Cyrus, as well as Tish’s new husband Dominic Purcell. They take a look at pre-wedding celebrations of one of the world’s richest families, which featured a very expensive Rhianna performance. Finally, Lauren and Chan cheer on Kate Hudson, who is now adding pop star to her resume with the recent release of her single Talk About Love. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A deep dive that covers the dating history of the internet’s ex-boyfriend, John Mayer. Hear all about John’s known relationships and hookups, what he has to say about his time with them and vice versa, whose body is actually a wonderland, and what John Mayer wants in a partner now. For a man who hasn’t dated anyone publicly in the past decade, women everywhere are still reeling over John’s disastrous 2010 Playboy interview and the bombshells dropped in Jessica Simpson’s memoir Open Book. One question remains: Is John Mayer still the same man who inspired songs like Dear John, or has he grown enough to learn from his past and actually have a lasting relationship? Buckle in, because it’s going to be a bumpy ride! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are ready with a deep dive on former Good Morning America anchors TJ Holmes and Amy Robach. These co-workers captured headlines in December 2022 when their workplace romance unexpectedly went public. The big problem? They were both married to other people at the time. Listen in as the gals shed some light on the known timeline of their relationship, which is a lot murkier than TJ and Amy are wanting to admit. Hear about the dramatic fallout that resulted from their relationship and how this couple has attempted to rebuild their careers as a couple, far from the bright lights of the Good Morning America set. Finally, Lauren gives her shocking theory about this couple and why things might change now that the lavender haze has faded from this relationship. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan give their full Super Bowl LVIII breakdown, complete with their thoughts on Taylor Swift, Blake Lively, and Travis Kelce’s outfits, their love for Brittany Mahomes, Travis’s heated moment with his coach, and all the viral afterparty moments. They chat about “new couple” Kim Kardashian and Odell Beckham Jr. and their lesser known relationship timeline. The gals discuss the unexpected Scientology Superbowl commercial, which invites viewers to “see for yourself.” Finally, Lauren and Chan give their takes on the MVP of Scientology Tom Cruise and his new girlfriend Elsina Khayrova. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In honor of the upcoming episode on scams, Lauren and Chan discuss one of the biggest scams of all that is somehow accepted as normal. Chan recounts the recent simple favor she did for Lauren that turned out to be a complicated hellscape. Lauren and Chan give their full Grammy awards debrief, including the fashion hits and misses of some of their favorite artists. The gals discuss which artist really deserves more recognition for her lyrical genius and which performances brought them joy. Finally, they discuss the biggest bombshell of the night: Taylor Swift announcing her 11th studio album—The Tortured Poets Department coming out April 19. Lauren and Chan discuss everything they know about this album: the easter eggs, the song titles, and why this album will likely answer all of the questions they have had about Taylor and Joe’s relationship and breakup. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Trial of David Foster, where Lauren and Chan examine this Canadian songwriter & producer’s marriages and misdeeds. Listen as the gals dive into David’s five marriages to discuss his relationship patterns and the toll it has taken on those in his orbit. Join Lauren and Chan as the judge, jury, and executioner regarding this man’s bad behavior, complete with the gals’ take on why David hated being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills + why they think he and Yolanda Hadid (wife #4) split. Finally, listen in as Lauren and Chan discuss the interview where Katherine McPhee (wife #5) tells the tale of her and David’s love. Buckle in, because this is a trial you won’t want to miss. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are so excited to have Dr. Jonathan Zelken on the podcast. Dr. Zelken is a board certified plastic surgeon based in Newport Beach, CA. After receiving his undergraduate degree in biology from Cornell University, he continued on to a degree in medicine at Tufts University, completed his plastic surgery training at Johns Hopkins Hospital, and then completed a microsurgery fellowship in Taiwan to further perfect his technique. Dr. Zelkin has learned from the best of the best to become one of the country’s leading plastic surgeons, specializing in facelifts, facial contouring, and a wide variety of plastic surgery techniques since opening his practice in 2016. Dr. Zelken's website and Instagram account are full of stunning before and after photos, featuring his flawless work and attention to the smallest of details on a wide variety of procedures. As the facelift expert of Newport Beach, Dr. Zelken is making his patients look like they are aging backwards, and we are so excited to hear his thoughts on all things related to plastic surgery. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan discuss their conflicting emotions regarding Ballerina Farm + why Hannah’s home childbirth followed by immediate Mrs. World preparation has a lot of followers feeling triggered, and potentially for valid reasons. Chan shares her favorite new online discovery of a very extreme fandom for Timotheé Chamalet. The gals discuss Queen Elizabeth’s alleged anger about Harry and Meghan giving their daughter the most clout chasing royal name "Lilibet Diana" and revisit the tense moment recounted in Spare when Harry asked for permission to propose to Meghan. Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the new episode of RHOBH, including Kyle's infatuation with Morgan Wade and the very important conversation about mental health shared by Kyle, Sutton, and Crystal.  TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains discussion of suicide and eating disorders. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode discusses child abuse, murder, and rape.  Join Lauren and Chan on a deep dive covering the life of Gypsy Rose Blanchard. As a victim of Münchausen Syndrome by Proxy, Gypsy Rose’s experienced a lifetime of abuse and mistreatment at the hand of her mother, Dee Dee Blanchard. Listen as Chan takes Lauren through Gypsy Rose’s childhood and lays the foundation for how Dee Dee spun an intricate web of lies that kept Gypsy Rose under her complete control. Hear how Gypsy Rose’s plans of escape turned into murder as the only way out of her horrific circumstances. This story seems too crazy to be true, but it is ultimately a tale of survival for Gypsy Rose Blanchard, who is truly free for the first time in her life. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices