Geraldine speaks to two people with particular experience to share.
Sr Clare Condon is a former leader of the Sisters of the Good Samaritan, who advised the bishops on setting up professional standards within the Church in the wake of the Royal Commission into Institutional Child Abuse. Also, on better pastoral approaches to people who had been so hurt.
Geraldine also speaks to Professor Francis Campbell, now Vice-Chancellor of Notre Dame University headquartered in Perth, who was the UK's Ambassador to the Holy See in the Vatican and formerly advisor to PM Tony Blair.
Both, in their different ways, are firmly looking to the future of the Church and see real opportunities presented by the Plenary Council.
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